dope, can you make my macbook run 1.6?
Leaked source – CS:GO
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Re: Leaked source – CS:GO
#22The title says "open source" but then goes on to talk about leaked source. Unless a clean room RE was done, I don't think this can be called "open source". I want the thing in the title to exist, of course, but at best this seems like the sort of thing that won't be legal and free until we're all dead. If anyone was interested in making a properly free CS:GO, they probably should avoid reading this post as it seems t…
General point: Clean room reverse engineering is a common approach, from corporations keen to minimise their liability. Nonetheless, clean room RE is not a legal requirement: certainly not in the EU, nor AIUI in the US. The EU allows reverse engineering for interoperability. The EU allows reimplementations of APIs (as does the US). The EU also explicitly allows decompilation, where necessary.
That's true, but it doesn't change your parent's point - this cannot be called "open source" at all.
Re: Leaked source – CS:GO
#23This world view is quite perplexing, to be frank. On one hand, he urges potential users to switch to Linux, emphasizing its cost-free nature and the freedom it offers in terms of code and game direction. However, on the other hand, the code being used is stolen and leaked, thus infringing on the original creator's copyright. Additionally, the repository's license claims that all contributions are considered public do…
I was also confused, but I think their thesis statement is pretty enlightening:
> If we got nuked tomorrow, and Steam went down, anyone could have CSGO up and running in the Bunker LAN by next week. Years later when us smoothskins are rockin’ Power9 Rigs, we would also have the ability to recompile and port the game.
The lip service to "Open Source" and white-knighting is a little harsh, but I think this was made with honest intention. Someone wanted to make a thing and offer it to others in the spirit of open collaboration. Their wording is wrong, but their heart is in the right place.
Re: Leaked source – CS:GO
#24The title says "open source" but then goes on to talk about leaked source. Unless a clean room RE was done, I don't think this can be called "open source". I want the thing in the title to exist, of course, but at best this seems like the sort of thing that won't be legal and free until we're all dead. If anyone was interested in making a properly free CS:GO, they probably should avoid reading this post as it seems t…
AssaultCube was a pretty good foss CS clone, no idea if people still play it though.
Re: Leaked source – CS:GO
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well that's the difference between "open source" and "free software", no? "Open source", meaning that anyone can see/copy the source code, and "free software" meaning code that is licensed accordingly. I always thought that "open source" has nothing to do with what's legal and what isn't, it just means that anyone can materially access the code.
No. Both of these terms are well described by the relevant organizations [1][2]. And "source the happens to be public" or "leaked source" does not imply any particular license. [1] https://opensource.org/ [2] https://www.fsf.org/
Anyone can start an organisation and define "open source" the way they want.
The common way it is understood should probably be named "libre source" or something, because it means more than that the source is just out in the open.
Re: Leaked source – CS:GO
#26dope, can you make my macbook run 1.6?
No need to even install. Play right in the browser: https://play-cs.com.
Re: Leaked source – CS:GO
#27it says one of the leakers was arrested? is there a source for this?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Both of these terms are well described by the relevant organizations [1][2]. And "source the happens to be public" or "leaked source" does not imply any particular license. [1] https://opensource.org/ [2] https://www.fsf.org/
Anyone can start an organisation and define "open source" the way they want. The common way it is understood should probably be named "libre source" or something, because it means more than that the source is just out in the open.
Sure anyone can, but OSI is the organization that popularized the term in the first place and its definition is widely followed, so there's no need to make such point in this particular case.
Re: Leaked source – CS:GO
#29This world view is quite perplexing, to be frank. On one hand, he urges potential users to switch to Linux, emphasizing its cost-free nature and the freedom it offers in terms of code and game direction. However, on the other hand, the code being used is stolen and leaked, thus infringing on the original creator's copyright. Additionally, the repository's license claims that all contributions are considered public do…
I was also confused, but I think their thesis statement is pretty enlightening: > If we got nuked tomorrow, and Steam went down, anyone could have CSGO up and running in the Bunker LAN by next week. Years later when us smoothskins are rockin’ Power9 Rigs, we would also have the ability to recompile and port the game. The lip service to "Open Source" and white-knighting is a little harsh, but I think this was made wit…
Valve has been relatively permissive regarding open-sourcing and liberally licensing some of its properties under the right conditions. See its push for SteamOS and allowing Black Mesa to be sold for profit. However, it might have been a good idea to contact them about this before hosting modified stolen property, even if it was with good intentions. I've got a feeling that this repo won't last too long.
Re: Leaked source – CS:GO
#30It's unlicensed proprietary code, you cannot use it.