Reflections on Ten Years Past the Snowden Revelations

Post by danielovichdk » Sat, May 27, 2023, 7:53 PM UTC

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #18

iJohnDoe wrote: post #14

I think people would be surprised and sickened to know just how cooperative the big tech companies are with the intelligence agencies. Microsoft is especially cooperative, even as going so far to make sure their systems are compatible with surveillance systems. Yes, Telcos have had to this as well, but I don’t think many people know that Microsoft has proactively done this.

> Microsoft is especially cooperative, even as going so far to make sure their systems are compatible with surveillance systems. I don't doubt you but a reference would help folks know what to make of this.

Post by edge17 » Sat, May 27, 2023, 7:55 PM UTC

tootie wrote: post #6

Serious question, why are the Snowden leaks so revered and not the reporting of James Risen several years earlier? Risen exposed operation Stellar Wind which was the grossest abuse of spying apparatus approved by the Bush admin over the express objections of their own DOJ. Risen also appeared in court for every summons about his activities and was dutifully defended by the NYT until he was ultimately exonerated.

Post by newZWhoDis » Sat, May 27, 2023, 7:58 PM UTC

iJohnDoe wrote: post #14

I think people would be surprised and sickened to know just how cooperative the big tech companies are with the intelligence agencies. Microsoft is especially cooperative, even as going so far to make sure their systems are compatible with surveillance systems. Yes, Telcos have had to this as well, but I don’t think many people know that Microsoft has proactively done this.

Post by WarOnPrivacy » Sat, May 27, 2023, 8:00 PM UTC

throwbadubadu wrote: post #12

layer8 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Username checks out.

Great find, love it! But the downvotes are maybe unfair for the Clapperish, wasn't that a parody?

Post by hgsgm » Sat, May 27, 2023, 8:02 PM UTC

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #10

tootie wrote: post #6

Serious question, why are the Snowden leaks so revered and not the reporting of James Risen several years earlier? Risen exposed operation Stellar Wind which was the grossest abuse of spying apparatus approved by the Bush admin over the express objections of their own DOJ. Risen also appeared in court for every summons about his activities and was dutifully defended by the NYT until he was ultimately exonerated.

> Serious question, why are the Snowden leaks so revered and not the reporting of James Risen several years earlier? Because, historically, the US Press is compulsively deferential to the NatSec state. It's the same reason the press twistered themselves to report the Mark Klein revelations as a warrantless wiretapping issue - instead of the NSA live cloning internet backbone traffic in a room custom built by AT&T for…