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I know this is about the alternatives, and I'm probably absolutely mad, but I still prefer Java over all the new alternatives. It still feels "solid" and dependable and without much fluff.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2952732/samples-of-scala-...
null, Null, None, Nil
At least I know which null I'm referring to in Java!
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http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2952732/samples-of-scala-...
I only have one comment to reply to that with: null, Null, None, Nil At least I know which null I'm referring to in Java!
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I only have one comment to reply to that with: null, Null, None, Nil At least I know which null I'm referring to in Java!
Very important feature that. I usually choose my language based on such important considerations. Busy deleting my Scala code as I write this and rewriting it into Java code 5-10 times the size so I don't have to suffer from being confused between null and None. Something in the back of my head tells me it has something to do with the infamous null pointer exception...
You should know that you must initialise all types to a default value. Then you don't need a language feature for "None". Being lazy or stupid is not a reason to add a language feature.
Oh and none of my code has thrown an NPE for over 10 years. That was when I started using pre and post condition checking which ultimately solves a lot more problems than some language feature.
There is nowt wrong with null, if you truly understand what it is.
I did vote on Scala, but actually I would rather that we return to languages that compile direct to native code.
I agree, I much prefer native compiled languages. I really like clojure and used it for about a year. I stopped because In doing a lot of embedded development so I need to use C and Ive been using C++/qt for desktop gui apps. Since then, though, Ive been kinda put off going back to clojure because its not native compiled even though I like the language itself.
A rather useless question. The word "prefer" is much too vague. I'd be rather interested in how much experience people actually have with these languages and whether they plan to continue using that language in future projects.
The popularity of a language is important. If developers don't like a language they won't use it. Look at Ruby a few years ago as an example of a popular language which was hardly used which became on of the most widely used scripting languages in modern times.
Do you have any reason to believe that's true?
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Not so fast... Clojure also getting some votes.
Xtend and Ceylon faring extremely badly, Kotlin only slightly better. Looks like a 2 horse race with Scala and Clojure in front.
Personally I think Xtend, Ceylon and for that matter Kotlin are "me too" languages, just trying to get some piece of the pie, and most likely won't go nowhere.
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Very important feature that. I usually choose my language based on such important considerations. Busy deleting my Scala code as I write this and rewriting it into Java code 5-10 times the size so I don't have to suffer from being confused between null and None. Something in the back of my head tells me it has something to do with the infamous null pointer exception...
I'm not confused between null and None. That's obvious and wholly pointless. You should know that you must initialise all types to a default value. Then you don't need a language feature for "None". Being lazy or stupid is not a reason to add a language feature. Oh and none of my code has thrown an NPE for over 10 years. That was when I started using pre and post condition checking which ultimately solves a lot more…
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I agree, I much prefer native compiled languages. I really like clojure and used it for about a year. I stopped because In doing a lot of embedded development so I need to use C and Ive been using C++/qt for desktop gui apps. Since then, though, Ive been kinda put off going back to clojure because its not native compiled even though I like the language itself.
There quite a few Lisp environments that compile to native code as well. Have you explored that route?
I'm sure its a matter of taste (and I actually do quite like Scheme, I guess just not enough to try and make it work for me right now...).
Having said that and ignoring Clojure, I also appreciate languages with a little more syntax sometimes, so I guess that's also held me back a bit. I should give Scheme or Common Lisp another try and see if I can't use it for my current work, but its hard to set the time aside, I guess.