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HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer

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Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer

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It's incredible how HP is destroying its brand. At this point I will never buy an HP printer again, not just because of the terrible practices, but (mostly) because of uncertainty: I definitely do not need printer drama in my life.

Just stick with laser printers and you're fine, even with HP. The problems all seem to be on the inkjet side. Aside from needing to print photos... laser printers are cheaper, more reliable, have higher quality output, and don't need special drivers. (And for the special case of photos, dedicated 4x6 dye sublimation printers are better than inkjet anyway.)

My color hp laser has chips on the toner carts and refuses to use refilled generic toner.

I had to actually transfer the chips from hp toner to the generic ones. And now it still complains that they're "empty" but at least it's possible to print.

My Samsung color laser before that did the same.

Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer

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I hope that Brother doesn't succumb to the same forces that drove HP (and everyone else) to these decisions. In the short term it makes sense for HP because 1. At first the printer works well. This causes reviewers, who only use the printer a few times when it's new, to write a good review. 2. It lets them keep the up-front price of their printers low. Most people only consider up-front cost and not total cost of own…

> I hope that Brother doesn't succumb to the same forces that drove HP (and everyone else) to these decisions.

I have bad news for you: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31860131

Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer

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Just stick with laser printers and you're fine, even with HP. The problems all seem to be on the inkjet side. Aside from needing to print photos... laser printers are cheaper, more reliable, have higher quality output, and don't need special drivers. (And for the special case of photos, dedicated 4x6 dye sublimation printers are better than inkjet anyway.)

My color hp laser has chips on the toner carts and refuses to use refilled generic toner. I had to actually transfer the chips from hp toner to the generic ones. And now it still complains that they're "empty" but at least it's possible to print. My Samsung color laser before that did the same.

Out of curiosity, which model do you have? I have a current generation HP M454 Color LaserJet, and there's an option in the menu ("Cartridge Policy") to allow use of third-party toner cartridges.

According to the manual, it defaults to allowing third-party cartridges - you have to go out of your way to turn the authenticity check on.

Re: HP Plus prevents printer from using non-OEM ink for the life of the printer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My color hp laser has chips on the toner carts and refuses to use refilled generic toner. I had to actually transfer the chips from hp toner to the generic ones. And now it still complains that they're "empty" but at least it's possible to print. My Samsung color laser before that did the same.

Out of curiosity, which model do you have? I have a current generation HP M454 Color LaserJet, and there's an option in the menu ("Cartridge Policy") to allow use of third-party toner cartridges. According to the manual, it defaults to allowing third-party cartridges - you have to go out of your way to turn the authenticity check on.

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There is a nice option on a settings screen labelled "protect cartridges" which has a nice looking "off" setting, which does nothing in reality.

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