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ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Post by slashdev »

toddmorey wrote: post #10

In answer to file security: "We utilize Amazon Web Services (AWS) for uploading and storing files, ensuring robust security measures, including data encryption and access control." Well, sure, but that's the file at rest. What about the security / privacy of the data as it's fed to ChatGPT? More and more of these "ask your doc / data a question" apps are popping up. Isn't this about equivalent to putting the document…

If you use the API, which this clearly does, they don't train on the input. You can see their guarantees in their terms and conditions, but you have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

I say reasonable, because in a company growing that fast, everything is on fire all the time and security is the last thing considered.

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Post by DeltaCoast »

shanusmagnus wrote: post #16
kelseyfrog wrote: post #9

Finally, I can have a conversation with Pepsi Gravitational Field[1] by Arnell Group, and Chicken Chicken[2]. 1. https://archive.org/details/pepsi_gravitational_field/mode/2... 2. https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf

The chicken one speaks for itself, but any context on wtf is the origin story on the Pepsi one?

That Pepsi doc made the rounds like 15 years ago. I remember seeing it first on Reddit, someone had claimed it was a branding pitch. There was a lot of back and forth on wether or not it's a hoax because it's absurd, but I've been in some meetings where we've gone through branding presentations that sound pretty similar.

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Post by boredemployee »

pirate787 wrote: post #11

How do we know ChatGPT isn't hallucinating parts of its answers? I think this is an interesting service but what are the guardrails so we can trust the answer?

That's the problem, we don't. All the tools on top of GPT that I tried has the same problem.

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Post by alsodumb »

s1mon wrote: post #13

I've tried this and chatpdf with some Computer Aided Geometric Design mathematics theses and papers. These tools do not seem to "read" the math parts of the papers, only the text. It would be amazing to have something which could digest a bunch of papers and start to help me navigate them, but a lot of the answers I get are "I don't have enough context to help you". Is there a better tool or way to use LLMs with scho…

You could just use the latex source code of the paper in the context window if you want it to be aware of the math. You can download latex source for any paper or arxiv.

If you have many papers, perhaps upload the latex source code of all of them into some vector database like pinecone and use them with LangChain for retrieval.

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Post by kelseyfrog »

shanusmagnus wrote: post #16
kelseyfrog wrote: post #9

Finally, I can have a conversation with Pepsi Gravitational Field[1] by Arnell Group, and Chicken Chicken[2]. 1. https://archive.org/details/pepsi_gravitational_field/mode/2... 2. https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf

The chicken one speaks for itself, but any context on wtf is the origin story on the Pepsi one?

It has been discussed before

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32064324 (2022)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19756602 (2019)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11038059 (2016)

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Post by slashdev »

pirate787 wrote: post #11

How do we know ChatGPT isn't hallucinating parts of its answers? I think this is an interesting service but what are the guardrails so we can trust the answer?

The same you get with ChatGPT - no guarantees. It's BYOB (Bring Your Own Brain), so don't trust it more than you would anything else you read on the Internet.

I get that people have an objection to how LLMs invent things, but so do people. You should always verify things.

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Post by beoberha »

I think these GPT wrapper apps are not too unlike Dropbox. They face a good amount of (fair) criticism as too simple of a solution for any technically minded person. But if you wrap some of the annoying parts into a nice app, you could have a very successful business for non technical people. Even technical enterprises can benefit from enterprise level security features that they themselves may not want to deal with.

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Post by mhitza »

airocker wrote: post #20

We are doing a Hackathon currently with the exact same idea. What are the chances?

High. Everybody, myself included, had this idea . There's also been (at least 2) posts in the past about similar products. I stopped from testing these out as they all "cheat", or at least in my opinion they cheat, by creating embeddings and vector search before hitting up GPT with the context/answer.
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