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Getting ready to ship 13th Gen and announcing power saving Expansion Cards

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Re: Getting ready to ship 13th Gen and announcing power saving Expansion Cards

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I'm using this to yet again make my semi-annual plea for someone to please make a framework-compatible keyboard with a Thinkpad-style trackpoint. That's the only thing keeping me on Lenovo at this point, decades of ingrained muscle memory. The patent is expired (from 1997 and 1998) and it'd be huge!

As a fellow thinkpad user, i feel you.

However, given the sad state of modern thinkpads (soldered ram, nothing’s upgradeable etc etc) i think you (we?) should really reconsider if the trackpoint is worth the hassle.

I’m certainly reconsidering… I’m waiting for amd and 16” version reviews.

Re: Getting ready to ship 13th Gen and announcing power saving Expansion Cards

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I'm using this to yet again make my semi-annual plea for someone to please make a framework-compatible keyboard with a Thinkpad-style trackpoint. That's the only thing keeping me on Lenovo at this point, decades of ingrained muscle memory. The patent is expired (from 1997 and 1998) and it'd be huge!

I'm in the same boat. I was considering just buying a standalone Lenovo Thinkpad keyboard and using it with the Framework laptop, but kind of defeats the purpose of a laptop.

Sadly, I estimate we're in such a tiny minority it simply makes no market sense for anyone to cater to us.

Re: Getting ready to ship 13th Gen and announcing power saving Expansion Cards

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This really impressed me. Can you imagine Dell or Apple doing this?

No, but I also can't imagine Apple shipping something that needed a bodge wire soldered in to make it work well. They do a lot more power consumption engineering than most PC companies and they operate on such a large scale that they'd have found out about a battery drain like this much sooner and could fix it in the production process.

Oh, so the first Apple laptop had zero bugs, and nothing has been fixed since?

Re: Getting ready to ship 13th Gen and announcing power saving Expansion Cards

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post #14

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This really impressed me. Can you imagine Dell or Apple doing this?

No, but I also can't imagine Apple shipping something that needed a bodge wire soldered in to make it work well. They do a lot more power consumption engineering than most PC companies and they operate on such a large scale that they'd have found out about a battery drain like this much sooner and could fix it in the production process.

Yeah, it's not like they had any hardware defects like broken keyboards, power management issues, blank watch screens, recalled batteries, weirdly places antennas, etc... Oh wait they just ignore those until the problem gets large enough they get into news and need to start honouring the warranties.

Re: Getting ready to ship 13th Gen and announcing power saving Expansion Cards

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I'm using this to yet again make my semi-annual plea for someone to please make a framework-compatible keyboard with a Thinkpad-style trackpoint. That's the only thing keeping me on Lenovo at this point, decades of ingrained muscle memory. The patent is expired (from 1997 and 1998) and it'd be huge!

It's funny, I actually have a Thinkpad (my work machine), and never use that thing. Just never got into it. I like the positioning in theory I suppose, just haven't accustomed to its location or acceleration, and the trackpad isn't so far away as to make me.

But what do you do at regular desktops/with a docked laptop? Mice bother me more, I've been looking into getting an Apple trackpad (to use with Linux) so it's a pad not a mouse but also so that I can put it in laptop-esque positioning, which seems more ergonomic to me, from primarily using the keyboard. (Not as much as a ThinkPad nipple of course, but as above I've never grown used to it, and I don't think any such keyboards exist anyway.)

Re: Getting ready to ship 13th Gen and announcing power saving Expansion Cards

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Haven't heard of the 1995 data regulation I suppose then, or that it's mostly common sense to tell what you do with other people's personal information, but sure, drop out of the entire market over this. I think the parent commenter was complaining about things that aren't EU-wide. This was and you're saying it's still not good enough

Er, I like GDPR, and it was EU-wide, but each member still would have to write its own framework into its legal system to implement GDPR as it saw fit. Those frameworks are all different in their detail. E.g. Germany has the BDSG, and the UK has (had?) the DPA.

Has. HMG wants UK GDPR to be stronger than (yet also somehow 'compatible with') EU GDPR.

Re: Getting ready to ship 13th Gen and announcing power saving Expansion Cards

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post #12

Framework is killing it and I absolutely love it. I have no need for a laptop right now, but if I ever buy another one, they'll definitely be at the top of my list. The only concern I have is with screen resolution. I'm using a MacBook and the screen resolution is an absolute blessing.

same here, I can't justify upgrading for a few more years, but definitely planning on framework for my next laptop, what they're doing is really cool
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