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Re: YC is One of Fast Company's 50 Most Innovative Companies

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That's a pretty poor response to a valid question. While the tone of the question was harsher than I think was warranted, the question of "why is this something I should care about?" is something that should be at the forefront of every product developer and investor's mind.

Not at all. Surely the obvious first step in talking to someone about an app is to figure out how much they already know about it.

While you may have intended your question as a question, that's not the impression it gave. My first reading of it was as a rudely sarcastic dismissal -- "obviously you don't know what you're talking about" -- and I was about to downvote it on grounds of incivility until I noticed that you were the author and realized that was probably not how you intended it to be read.

Re: YC is One of Fast Company's 50 Most Innovative Companies

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Not at all. Surely the obvious first step in talking to someone about an app is to figure out how much they already know about it.

While you may have intended your question as a question, that's not the impression it gave. My first reading of it was as a rudely sarcastic dismissal -- "obviously you don't know what you're talking about" -- and I was about to downvote it on grounds of incivility until I noticed that you were the author and realized that was probably not how you intended it to be read.

I suspect that that is only the default interpretation because the site has gone so far downhill and there are so many nasty stupid comments.

Re: YC is One of Fast Company's 50 Most Innovative Companies

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Not at all. Surely the obvious first step in talking to someone about an app is to figure out how much they already know about it.

While you may have intended your question as a question, that's not the impression it gave. My first reading of it was as a rudely sarcastic dismissal -- "obviously you don't know what you're talking about" -- and I was about to downvote it on grounds of incivility until I noticed that you were the author and realized that was probably not how you intended it to be read.

He was just asking an honest question and wanted to know if the person actually used it, since that would probably provide a deeper explanation of the utility of Bump than any personal opinion of his would. Let's not get too uptight around here people.

Re: YC is One of Fast Company's 50 Most Innovative Companies

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While you may have intended your question as a question, that's not the impression it gave. My first reading of it was as a rudely sarcastic dismissal -- "obviously you don't know what you're talking about" -- and I was about to downvote it on grounds of incivility until I noticed that you were the author and realized that was probably not how you intended it to be read.

He was just asking an honest question and wanted to know if the person actually used it, since that would probably provide a deeper explanation of the utility of Bump than any personal opinion of his would. Let's not get too uptight around here people.

I know what he meant. My point was that what he meant isn't what it sounded like at first glance (yay mixed metaphors!) and that's probably why daeken responded as he did.

Re: YC is One of Fast Company's 50 Most Innovative Companies

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Oy. The reason I didn't explain what Bump does is precisely the question you thought it was improper to ask him: since he's a Bump user, he already knows. What Bump does is mutually authenticate two smartphone users by having them bump their phones together, and correlating the accelerometer readings. On top of authentication you can build all sorts of things, starting with exchanging contact info. The hard/critical…

Sorry, I think we're talking past each other here. I understand what Bump does/is, but what I (and I believe the original asker) are missing is where the value is. While I can come up with a million use cases for this, e.g. bumping for payments, bumping to share photos, etc, I believe you're in a fairly unique position to be able to express what the core value proposition of the company -- now and moving forward -- i…

Your confusion is really puzzling to me. You seem to understand why it's useful (ability to share contact info, payments, photo sharing), but how is that different from the "value proposition"? As far as I can tell that's the value proposition! It's like Tri Flow for device communication, making it simpler and easier and faster and more convenient. Sounds like value to me.

Re: YC is One of Fast Company's 50 Most Innovative Companies

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He was just asking an honest question and wanted to know if the person actually used it, since that would probably provide a deeper explanation of the utility of Bump than any personal opinion of his would. Let's not get too uptight around here people.

I know what he meant. My point was that what he meant isn't what it sounded like at first glance (yay mixed metaphors!) and that's probably why daeken responded as he did.

Yea, don't sweat it. :)

Re: YC is One of Fast Company's 50 Most Innovative Companies

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Sorry, I think we're talking past each other here. I understand what Bump does/is, but what I (and I believe the original asker) are missing is where the value is. While I can come up with a million use cases for this, e.g. bumping for payments, bumping to share photos, etc, I believe you're in a fairly unique position to be able to express what the core value proposition of the company -- now and moving forward -- i…

Your confusion is really puzzling to me. You seem to understand why it's useful (ability to share contact info, payments, photo sharing), but how is that different from the "value proposition"? As far as I can tell that's the value proposition! It's like Tri Flow for device communication, making it simpler and easier and faster and more convenient. Sounds like value to me.

I could come up with a dozen ways in which Google could use their assets to do new things and potentially increase shareholder value; that doesn't mean they'll do it. pg is in a fairly unique position to tell us how Bump can add value, not just some random speculation, e.g. from myself.

What sort of confuses me is that normally he is shouting from the rooftops about how a startup changes a user's life, but that's absent. I don't get it, especially because I am bullish on Bump.

Re: YC is One of Fast Company's 50 Most Innovative Companies

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This list seems like an odd mix of pandering, genuinely exciting companies, and companies that did something interesting years ago and rank for still existing.

Companies that have existed for years can still do innovative things. We've highlighted those new efforts in the entries. Jawbone, for example, has been around for ages but last year had a huge hit with the Jambox. In that entry Farhad Manjoo also writes about the Up, which was flying off shelves until they found a defect and pulled it.

Would you mind explaining Reddit's inclusion in the same way? Certainly the write-up of Reddit in this piece doesn't seem to highlight anything new or innovative (unless campaigning against SOPA counts).

Cheers

(I feel slightly bad for picking upon Reddit, they were just the first example that came to mind when glancing at the list.)

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