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Bluesky Is a Scam

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Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#21

Post by Gigachad »

threeseed wrote: post #5

> because of that they are tricking a lot of people into using them This may come as a surprise. But your average cool, interesting person doesn't care whether Bluesky has a decentralised protocol or the intricacies of its identity model. The reason most people are using it is because it's the closest thing to a Musk-less Twitter.

I pressed a button on Twitter to not show me anything from musk. Now it’s a muskless twitter. Meanwhile I’ve heard that alternatives like mastodon have half the user base taking about musk. That’s much harder to block.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#22

Post by sph »

iso8859-1 wrote: post #8

note that fiatjaf is the creator of nostr, which is a competing product

Also recipient of a ~$250k grant to develop NOSTR from Jack Dorsey himself, who is also behind Bluesky...

Biting the hand that fed him.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#24

Post by ciwolsey »

Gigachad wrote: post #21
threeseed wrote: post #5

> because of that they are tricking a lot of people into using them This may come as a surprise. But your average cool, interesting person doesn't care whether Bluesky has a decentralised protocol or the intricacies of its identity model. The reason most people are using it is because it's the closest thing to a Musk-less Twitter.

I pressed a button on Twitter to not show me anything from musk. Now it’s a muskless twitter. Meanwhile I’ve heard that alternatives like mastodon have half the user base taking about musk. That’s much harder to block.

And of course nobody on Twitter is talking about Musk.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#26

Post by _x2o9 »

mjfl wrote: post #16
threeseed wrote: post #5

> because of that they are tricking a lot of people into using them This may come as a surprise. But your average cool, interesting person doesn't care whether Bluesky has a decentralised protocol or the intricacies of its identity model. The reason most people are using it is because it's the closest thing to a Musk-less Twitter.

Which is funny because this demographic values blocking, banning, and censorship very highly while these are exactly the sort of things Nostr and Bluesky are designed to prevent.

Irony is lost on these authoritarians who are anti-free speech.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#27

Post by manojlds »

ciwolsey wrote: post #24
Gigachad wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pressed a button on Twitter to not show me anything from musk. Now it’s a muskless twitter. Meanwhile I’ve heard that alternatives like mastodon have half the user base taking about musk. That’s much harder to block.

And of course nobody on Twitter is talking about Musk.

Or posting screenshots of stuff he does etc etc.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#28

Post by manojlds »

wmf wrote: post #2

This is... the least charitable possible interpretation of the current state of Bluesky and the AT Protocol. It's not wrong, but it's not clear that it will be right either. Personally I would have preferred if they implemented federation before going into beta because that is the whole point of a decentralized network. But OTOH there is an opportunity right now to lure people away from Twitter and that opportunity m…

From what the CEO said, they were giving out invites from the start and no one was using them and then suddenly the momentum hit and everything was gobbled up and lot more than they anticipated joined.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#29

Post by manojlds »

Alacart wrote: post #10
cxr wrote: post #6

The solution to the problem of centralization that Bluesky has been touted as tackling (and that Mastodon doesn't deal with in a satisfactory way) doesn't look anything like Bluesky or Twitter or Mastodon. Instead, it's just making RSS (read: Atom) suck less. Crazy that no one in the relevant circles seems to have realized that microblog posts don't require anything more sophisticated than what a static site generato…

This is how I've been feeling but I'm assuming there's more to this that I just don't know. I keep thinking, what if we: 1. Use domains/subdomains as usernames by just... having the content on them. 2. Follow a truly basic structure for index (feed), single post, etc. so that clients know how to consume them easily. 3. For interactions (replies, likes, etc), the client posts them to your own server (or service hostin…

Even as a dev, I am not going to take care of 3 and 4. I just host my site via a static generator on GitHub.

Who's going to do it for normal users? That's what bluesky is doing and anyone who's interested can theoretically host their own servers.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#30

Post by voytec »

Alacart wrote: post #10
cxr wrote: post #6

The solution to the problem of centralization that Bluesky has been touted as tackling (and that Mastodon doesn't deal with in a satisfactory way) doesn't look anything like Bluesky or Twitter or Mastodon. Instead, it's just making RSS (read: Atom) suck less. Crazy that no one in the relevant circles seems to have realized that microblog posts don't require anything more sophisticated than what a static site generato…

This is how I've been feeling but I'm assuming there's more to this that I just don't know. I keep thinking, what if we: 1. Use domains/subdomains as usernames by just... having the content on them. 2. Follow a truly basic structure for index (feed), single post, etc. so that clients know how to consume them easily. 3. For interactions (replies, likes, etc), the client posts them to your own server (or service hostin…

> Use domains/subdomains as usernames by just...

Username should be owned. Domains are leased.

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