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Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

I found Tailscale for a specific reason, having a network where my various services can talk to each other without going thru HTTP for everything, i.e. ssh, scp, direct schemas for DBs.

And I use it for screen sharing my mac computers over the internet while traveling.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

Tailscalar here. One of the main things I use Tailscale for is accessing my development box from anywhere in the world. I can't really develop on Windows so I'm used to ssh-ing into a NixOS machine that runs all my compilers. Tailscale makes accessing it so easy that I can just leave hundreds of emacs buffers open in various tmux panes and reconnect back when I want to do development again.

I also run some internal services over Tailscale, a lot of my personal projects have tsnet embedded into them so that my Prometheus machine can scrape and monitor them. My husband also uses one of those services daily to monitor some information that I publish there.

I also run the development instance of my blog over Tailscale and use Funnel to share it with people to review my writing before it goes live.

At work we use it a lot to let people poke around with changes to development instances of websites (like https://tailscale.dev) without having to push them to the cloud and wait for preview deploys. It is _stupidly convenient_.

Turns out you can do a lot of things with networks when you don't have firewalls making everything complicated.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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How does the multiple users work? I don't see an option to invite other users.

So far, the same way it's always worked: you need to BYODomain and sign in with your domain's configured SSO provider. You can't do, say, 3 gmail users.

I’ve always disliked the enforced SSO approach.

However, if you did have 3 Gmail users, it’s possible to share Tailscale access across multiple accounts. So in a small setup you could create an account for each user and then effectively connect their Tailscale networks together (I’m not sure if you can route between Tailscale accounts directly but you can at least share hosts on your account with users on another account, which is how I do it).

I do this with a personal and work account to share some limited access between them.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

You can also extend your RaspberryPi over Tailscale and have your phone use it on the go.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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This is a really intelligent move on tailscales part. Yes, there are a few hobbyists who paid for the personal pro plan, I'm sure. But at $50 a year it's not exactly going to change the companies economics a lot. Then the next step was jumping into "Team" level which would actually be a major step down for a small hobbyist who wanted a lot of devices (Personal was 20 devices, Personal Pro was 100 devices, Team was 5x the use count. So 2 users... 10 devices). Realistically hobbyists are not going to be the bread-and-butter of Tailscale's business, so why not let them go crazy.

Looking at https://tailscale.com/pricing/ one of the other major changes that has been made, is the free plan now provides access to almost every feature. Going up to the $6/mo/use "Starter" plan actually loses you some features. So if you've had a taste of the good life, and want to keep it, but have more than three users… You are going to need to go to the premium or enterprise plans. Probably makes their sales process, super easy, since they don't need to give out trials to companies anymore, "free plan for a few users and try it out".

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

You can setup an exit node on your home network where you run a Pi-hole and get the domain blocking on the go.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even without this change, if you can get the other folks to use Tailscale you can share out devices. So he doesn't need to manage other users, they can create their own accounts and access his server.

That's this https://tailscale.com/kb/1084/sharing/ right?

Yes, that's the one.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place.

- Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same.

- In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale

- https://tailscale.com/blog/tailscale-auth-nginx/ describes how you can integrate nginx proxying with Tailscale auth to both leverage SSO and the authenticated endpoint

- I have a bootmod3 WiFi adapter plugged into my street/track car with a combo 5G/Linux unit in the car connected to my Tailscale that streams continuous telemetry about the car whenever its turned on. I could in theory re-flash the ECU via this.

- Using https://tailscale.com/kb/ondemand-access/ alongside node/subnet grouping to create a very neat first step towards auditing access to sensitive production services/environments.

- I use server-based dev environments to keep my portable laptop as clean as possible with no source code on it. VS Code remote + Coder server are fantastic over Tailscale.

+ others. Tailscale I think solves the problem of node-to-node-to-subnet connectivity at a convenient and flexible layer.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

As a consumer, I use it for two things and it does it well and very simply across all platforms:

1) When traveling, you can use one of your home computers as an "exit node" so you can watch Netflix, etc. abroad very easily. Much more reliable than using VPNs which can be blocked.

2) Accessing your internal network from wherever you are for Plex, Homebridge, IP cameras, or whatever.

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