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Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by djbusby » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:34 AM UTC

marvinkennis wrote: post #18

Heroku has been an absolute dumpster fire. Every time their name comes up I can't help but mention that they deleted my account for inactivity, but have still been charging my credit card. No easy way to cancel because... they deleted my account.

Gotta chargeback and tell the CC company to block. Then file complaint with their states AG.

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by jostiniane » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:35 AM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #11

emodendroket wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what should he be doing, building his own data center?

Rent a $5/month VPS, install a few packages? Or just run a linux vm locally.

you clearly have no idea how things work outside of hobby projects, what about reliability? scalability, guaranteed uptime, resolving incidences,... You can account for all for that for yourself by creating a mini cloud provider.. good luck with that

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by lorenzk » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:36 AM UTC

Not sure if you have done this already but: If you rotate your database, redis and email provider passwords/tokens, the zombie process might still be running but will not have any effects any more.

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by j45 » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:36 AM UTC

Maybe Dokku us an option to self host and maintain Heroku code

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by krokoo » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:37 AM UTC

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Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by CogitoCogito » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:39 AM UTC

jostiniane wrote: post #22

TylerE wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rent a $5/month VPS, install a few packages? Or just run a linux vm locally.

you clearly have no idea how things work outside of hobby projects, what about reliability? scalability, guaranteed uptime, resolving incidences,... You can account for all for that for yourself by creating a mini cloud provider.. good luck with that

Half of the "robust" and highly complex solutions I see employing modern practices go down way more often than the simple version that the GP described.

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by akie » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:42 AM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #20

emodendroket wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, rely on yet another vendor, or do as I suggested except without any semblance of reliabiliy.

Some one just starting out is not Google. They do not have Google's problems. They do not need Google's complexity, or a dozen layers of docker/terraform/k8s bullshit.

Dockerizing (what the author said he would do) is almost always worth it though.

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by jakear » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:47 AM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #10

sufehmi wrote: post #8

Clearly the author still hasn't learned his lesson: his "no more vendor lock" solution is another vendor(s) - which is always able to vendor-lock him, again. It is truly mind blowing on how many people keep falling for one of the oldest trick in IT : vendor lock-in. === No more vendor lock In 2018 Heroku was pretty much the only option for a newbie like me to get started with web-development. The landscape is very di…

So what should he be doing, building his own data center?

Building your own data center isn't enough, land ownership is a myth as you'll still be locked in to your government via property taxes.

The real self-hosted solution is running your server off a solar powered yacht in international waters while transmitting and receiving all data via worldwide shortwave radio. Fire any customers not willing to invest in a SW-Ethernet adapter.

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by slyall » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:49 AM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #20

emodendroket wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, rely on yet another vendor, or do as I suggested except without any semblance of reliabiliy.

Some one just starting out is not Google. They do not have Google's problems. They do not need Google's complexity, or a dozen layers of docker/terraform/k8s bullshit.

Agreed, instead of "a dozen layers of docker/terraform/k8s bullshit" they just need they application code and some config that will take them an hour to setup once.

Re: Heroku has been running a second copy of my scheduler instance

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Post by toyg » Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:49 AM UTC

8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #19

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #13

I vote for moving to Render! My god I wish I could short Heroku stock.

Looks really expensive. And weird pricing. I click "pricing" and it gives me per user costs. Wat? I thought I was hosting stuff, not managing teams. Click on +Computing costs and it's like $0! $0! $0! Check the fineprint and its like 4GB RAM and 2 CPUs is $85/mo, or you can get the same at DigitalOcean for $24. Then add Postgres for another $95. Or if you're cheap like me, you self-host that in your $24 droplet and p…

Everyone charges for convenience. A lot of people don't want the headache to run and secure their own Postgres, for example. It's a trade-off, same as servicing your car vs just handing it off to a garage mechanic.