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I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Post by fnordpiglet »

kaibee wrote: post #3
T-A wrote: post #2

> GPT4 gave the correct answer in 1/10th the time it would take Priya and cost a lot less. [...] Priya has tried to learn coding, but she has struggled. Not that she gets a lot of time to do it either. 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. 2) Let her use part (50%+) of the time saved to learn coding or whatever other skill she needs (not sure coding is it).

> 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. Why would I subsidize that as a business owner? I can fire 9/10ths of the people who do that job instead.

It’s also possible, like a lot of skilled knowledge work, they’re greatly constrained on talent relative to potential work. I think something folks don’t get is that AI is going to allow a lot more of everything to be done, and will still need humans to guide it. I suspect it’ll be a bit like the calculator and it’s acceleration of math fields. Human calculators became less useful, but humans could do much more math and I’d argue power tools don’t eliminate jobs, they allow the people that exist do 10x the work allowing 10x to be achieved with the same people. I think it’s cynical to think a rising tide sinks all boats.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Post by sorokod »

There may be new jobs replacing those that have been made irrelevant by the advent of AI but Priyas and possibly some readers of this thread will nor be able to switch between them.

Consider a programmer that reports a productivity increase of 50% due to AI - a question the company will be asking itself is can we get rid of 50% of our programmers?

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Post by avion23 »

The Author proposes to keep worthless jobs. The same argument could be made against compilers or language translaters.

This is encapsulated in a sob story.

Am I wrong? I would like to hear your counter arguments

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Post by eropple »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #21
kaibee wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. Why would I subsidize that as a business owner? I can fire 9/10ths of the people who do that job instead.

It’s also possible, like a lot of skilled knowledge work, they’re greatly constrained on talent relative to potential work. I think something folks don’t get is that AI is going to allow a lot more of everything to be done, and will still need humans to guide it. I suspect it’ll be a bit like the calculator and it’s acceleration of math fields. Human calculators became less useful, but humans could do much more math…

I don't think anyone at all suggests that all boats will sink.

But the poorest and most vulnerable will. It happens every time. This time, we could do better--and we won't.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Post by yawnxyz »

In the future there'll probably be two kinds of people: the ones wielding Magic (aka LLMs)... and the ones trying to hold on to a world before Magic arrived, slowly getting eaten up by the Magic.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Post by henriquez »

imdsm wrote: post #9
kaibee wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. Why would I subsidize that as a business owner? I can fire 9/10ths of the people who do that job instead.

Train people to use GPT-related tech to become superhuman team members. You can do it all yourself, sure, but that doesn't scale. You can either train GPT-tech to use GPT to scale or train humans. Right now, reliability is the most difficult issue, so humans are essentially to ensuring the results are correct.

Humans are useful for training future iterations of the closed source thinking model. Once the model is sophisticated enough to train itself humans will no longer be required.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Post by sveme »

Beaver117 wrote: post #11

Just hurry up and automate everyone's jobs so we can get UBI

But that would require that we start taxing companies far more and stop the global tax evasion mechanisms. I fear automation is just going to further increase inequality and devastate the middle class.

But that has been predicted for every new increase in automation, so maybe we‘ll be wrong again.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

The big oversight here is that Priya does not want a job, what Priya wants is an income. The point of life is not working, the point of life is to enjoy it. We should strive to eliminate as many jobs as we possibly can, the less we have to work the better it is.

To make this possible we need to find a way to a new system that doesn't directly link labour with income.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Post by csomar »

T-A wrote: post #2

> GPT4 gave the correct answer in 1/10th the time it would take Priya and cost a lot less. [...] Priya has tried to learn coding, but she has struggled. Not that she gets a lot of time to do it either. 1) Show Priya how to use GPT4 to do her current job in 1/10th of the time. 2) Let her use part (50%+) of the time saved to learn coding or whatever other skill she needs (not sure coding is it).

More probable scenario:

1- Hire someone cheaper than Priya and show him to tricks to run GPT-4. Make him work 24/7 non-stop because it's an upgrade from his naan flipping job.

2- Fire Priya.

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