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Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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post #19

> Our mission is to support the creation and development of Free Software; therefore we only allow repos licensed under an OSI/FSF-approved license. For more details see Licensing article. However, we sometimes tolerate repositories that aren't perfectly licensed and focus on spreading awareness on the topic of improper FLOSS licensing and its issues. If you aren't doing FOSS software and aren't "tolerated" you aren'…

Exactly.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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post #9

What makes it fast, and is GitHub not fast enough? Why is their UI (which is Forgejo, fork of Gitea) such a blatant clone of GitHub’s?

> such a blatant clone of GitHub’s? I'm guessing for the same reason all cars have the steering wheel and turn signal switch in roughly the same place.

BitBucket and GitLab are more distinct and have made different decisions in some places, for better or worse. Forgejo is just a clone of GitHub with slightly different colors.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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post #11
post #9

What makes it fast, and is GitHub not fast enough? Why is their UI (which is Forgejo, fork of Gitea) such a blatant clone of GitHub’s?

I'm guessing the Golang implementation and probably a smaller team working on the frontend? GitHub is perceptibly slower than Codeberg, just open 2 tab side by side and try them out.

Codeberg being faster might be a side effect of not being very popular yet.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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> No tracking. Your data is not for sale.

Of course, Codeberg is not saying GitHub sells your data, but it seems to imply someone is selling your data if you don't use Codeberg and instead use other services. Is there any backing for this? Who sells your data if you use GitHub that won't sell your data when you use Codeberg?

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the "governance" failure? Though I don't use it, GitLab struck me as one of the darlings of how to run an open source company (I love all their public docs), but maybe I'm missing something?

Gitlab is "open-core", not open source.

Open core is a monetisation model, open source is licensing. GitLab is both open core and open source.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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> No tracking. Your data is not for sale. Of course, Codeberg is not saying GitHub sells your data, but it seems to imply someone is selling your data if you don't use Codeberg and instead use other services. Is there any backing for this? Who sells your data if you use GitHub that won't sell your data when you use Codeberg?

https://github.com/features/copilot#pricing

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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About 6 months ago, Codeberg removed the repository for the Wikiless project, and IIRC did not offer any explanation to the developer for about 2 weeks. The reason was a Wikimedia Foundation request. Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33101301

Repo is still private and the dev removed all of his updates.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221125051241/https://orenom.fi...

The repo: https://codeberg.org/orenom/wikiless

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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About 6 months ago, Codeberg removed the repository for the Wikiless project, and IIRC did not offer any explanation to the developer for about 2 weeks. The reason was a Wikimedia Foundation request. Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33101301

I would be very surprised if this was the case - the WMF doesn't prohibit alternative front ends in any way, and it doesn't seem to do anything they'd be upset about (unless it allowed people to evade edit blocks, but that seems incredibly doubtful); if anything, surely they'd welcome a project focused on protecting the privacy of its users?

I added the reference link:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33101301

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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About 6 months ago, Codeberg removed the repository for the Wikiless project, and IIRC did not offer any explanation to the developer for about 2 weeks. The reason was a Wikimedia Foundation request. Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33101301

There's more to this - Wikiless was an unmodified passthrough proxy that iirc just unloaded a bunch of regular mediawiki JS because the author thought it constituted a privacy violation/they were afraid that for some reason the WMF was tracking them for malicious purposes[0].

On its own, not harmful. That being said, it ran afoul of the WMFs trademarks and was actively confusing people with regular Mediawiki, which is likely what prompted the takedown. You can read the ins and outs on Wikipedias own page about mirrors and forks, there's an explanation listed there[1].

Codeberg likely complied because if you're weighting a vaguely conspiratorial-minded (the developer of Wikiless is a "feds in the walls" type if it wasn't obvious from the previous paragraph) proxy tool against possibly being shut down since you decided to stand up for an easy trademark violation, the choice is easy.

[0]: I'd like to note that as far as I can tell, no such tooling exists on Wikipedia, nor does the WMF employ the usual culprit (ad networks) of that kind of nonsense.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/VW...

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