Live data from Hacker News

UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

bbc.co.uk

21–30 of 252 posts

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#21
post #2

I don't know what kind of new scanner technology they have, but I noticed at Louis Armstrong International (MSY) they've dispensed with making you take your shoes off or pull your laptop out to be scanned separately. I hope they keep finding ways around this security theater malarkey.

[flagged]

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#22
UK could save a ton of time if they just better implemented One Stop Security. Heathrow wastes a massive amount of time by rescreening cabin luggage that was already screened in Europe/US/Canada.

And this isn’t a Brexit thing.

I’ve avoided transiting through Heathrow because of this silliness. Especially as they won’t let you bring big contact lens in your carryon while US/Canada does. Not cool to have it seized mid-journey despite staying airside.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#23
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The term you're looking for is security theatre

Right, but to their defense, there have not been 9/11 attacks or anything remotely similar since 9/11... so either it was all fake anyways or the security theater also deters potential low IQ attackers?

There also wasn’t a 9/11 before the 9/11.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#24
post #19

I recently went through Eindhoven airport in the Netherlands and it blew my mind that I could bring water with me, and the security guy didn't even open my backpack, he just rotated and zoomed around a "hologram" of it in 3D on a computer.

Question is how this differentiates between the fluids inside. Shape means little.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#25
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The term you're looking for is security theatre

Right, but to their defense, there have not been 9/11 attacks or anything remotely similar since 9/11... so either it was all fake anyways or the security theater also deters potential low IQ attackers?

Securing cockpit doors is what prevents the next 9/11. It was both necessary and sufficient.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#26

I flew yesterday and in the plane realized I had some water from my daughter in the backpack. It was scanned and missed of course. And why wouldn't they miss it, it's a waste of time anyway. But at least they harassed a 3-year old to stand in a certain way to get scanned and fail at it. Unrelated, but I've come to believe it's a form of social welfare. So much policing for nothing, not just airports, wars on drugs et…

It’s common for airports to allow liquids for babies/toddlers. Just take them out of the bag and put them in a padded box normally. No 100ml limit either- have taken regular water bottles through too (for milk formula).

Various airports have different rules.

Dubai was quite lax, you don’t have to take anything out of bags. Maybe they have the new scanners already.

Singapore was more strict, and they do the security check just before the gate which I hated because things like soft drinks etc purchased in duty free had to be consumed before going through (but again, no problem with baby liquids).

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#27
In Japan for domestic flights, they have some sort of a sniffer machine they put your liquids on for testing, so flying with them is fine.

When I flew through Beijing and had forgotten a can of beer in my backpack (<3 Julebryg), it was flagged on the X-ray, and when they guy found it, saw "it was just a can of beer", he gave it back to me. I guess that works too.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#28

I think Helsinki Airport has them. I had spray can of deodorant that i was able to take to Germany but on on way back it was deemed too dangerous. Thou the new scanners didn't like my 3 stacked card decks or the 2 of 250ml "milkshakes". Funny that the milkshakes needed to be drug tested while my 500mil smoothie was totally fine.

Yeah, they've had them for a year or so at Helsinki. Super fast and convenient. They have to re-educate everyone to not take your laptop out to keep things moving quickly.

JFK has one of the new machines, but I haven't seen them use it yet.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#29
post #16

I flew yesterday and in the plane realized I had some water from my daughter in the backpack. It was scanned and missed of course. And why wouldn't they miss it, it's a waste of time anyway. But at least they harassed a 3-year old to stand in a certain way to get scanned and fail at it. Unrelated, but I've come to believe it's a form of social welfare. So much policing for nothing, not just airports, wars on drugs et…

The term you're looking for is security theatre

It can be both - security theatre and jobs program for otherwise unemployable people (good security requires highly skilled labour but security theatre doesn’t).

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

#30

UK could save a ton of time if they just better implemented One Stop Security. Heathrow wastes a massive amount of time by rescreening cabin luggage that was already screened in Europe/US/Canada. And this isn’t a Brexit thing. I’ve avoided transiting through Heathrow because of this silliness. Especially as they won’t let you bring big contact lens in your carryon while US/Canada does. Not cool to have it seized mid-…

When you transit you’re in a flight with people who didn’t transit. They don’t know where your luggage has been or hasn’t been or if it’s yours or new.

What they are doing is normal and many airports in asia do exactly that.

Post reply on HN