> Mark Zuckerberg pushes the benefits of coming to the office has he stopped believing in the transformative power of the metaverse then?
He lives in Hawaii lol
I thought he transcended meatspace /s
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#22I think companies are trying to use the current economic environment as leverage to claw back some rights their workers have gained since 2020. It’s all about control, nothing to do with your output as an employee.
This is kind of an odd way to frame this. The increase of remote work, at Meta at least, was not a result of some kind of workers vs. management struggle in which workers temporarily gained an upper hand. It was the result of an exogenous event (the pandemic) forcing an on-the-fly experiment.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
i really wish we could see some of the data that has made him change his mind so drastically.
The power dynamic does not require evidence, hence it being the root cause requiring a fix.
i know that's the generic thing to say, and its not untrue. But in this specific case i am curious what went into this decision, as I still have some small respect for the builder focused culture he created at FB for at least the first ~half of its life.
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#24Work on the metaverse but in-person.
Come work in the office meatspace on the metaverse
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#26While it may be controversial, I like that some companies are trying Work from Office, for multiple reasons:
It forces companies to tap into a smaller talent pool locally, which can include more junior employees that may require training. This makes the company more inclusive and gives opportunities to those who might not otherwise have access to them.
Let's not forget that one of the most successful companies in the world, OpenAI, operates mostly from the office. For one, if there truly is an advantage to remote work, then companies that embrace it will naturally outperform those that don't. However, the fact that Meta and other companies are requiring employees to return to the office suggests that there may be benefits to in-person work that can't be replicated remotely.
My company choose an hybrid option that I find interesting. It is remotely only, but hires only locally.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
i really wish we could see some of the data that has made him change his mind so drastically.
Ancedotally, someone close to me who works at Meta has cited several outrageous examples of WLB'ers doing almost no work. Perhaps a few bad apples spoiled the bunch.
It's just as possible to do no work while sitting in an office all day, we've all seen that
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
i really wish we could see some of the data that has made him change his mind so drastically.
Ancedotally, someone close to me who works at Meta has cited several outrageous examples of WLB'ers doing almost no work. Perhaps a few bad apples spoiled the bunch.
That's frustrating though. Just put those folk on notice, fire them if they dont improve, or fire their managers if they cant fix the problem. baby, bathwater, etc.
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#30Suddenly all these layoffs from the tech industry now make sense. Companies view the WFH movement and the rights which the workers have gained over the past three years as a threat to their very existence. The layoffs combined with a mandatory return to office will discourage any sort of dissent.
To what "rights", specifically, are you referring? How were they "gained over the past 3 years"? There is a weird strain of thinking in this thread that tries to frame this as some kind of Marxian labor-capital power struggle. But that framing doesn't really fit the facts.