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AI porn will never be sexy

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Re: AI porn will never be sexy

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Post by etiam »

Plenty of affirmation in there, that will have a hard time qualifying as truths, even if we give the author the benefit of the doubt about setting the provocation title.

One could try to do some semantic weaseling about the meaning of "sexy", but if it's to be in the context of Internet porn it could hardly be very far from something like 'eliciting sexual arousal', and that's already pretty much a game of supernormal stimuli on trigger signals. If the machine is actually set to optimize for that, it should be able to create every impression that can be reached with subjecting real people to assorted body paints, hair cuttings, physical excercise, and surgeries .. and then some. And the computer generated media is already strikingly good and seems to keep improving.

Not sure I like the implications of a prospective situation where every real person looks dull by habituated standards, and maybe we don't have to end up there, but the post really comes across as a lot of opinions about what ought to be true and saying essentially nothing about what is.

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

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Post by colmvp »

I never thought we'd hit a point in my lifetime where artificially generated porn would be compelling, but I'm utterly impressed by the quality of SFM adult content.

And I'm thinking if porn sites can combine the various forms of generative AI (including the voice acting) to allow viewers to create their own fantasies... look out.

If people lament the popularity of these fantasies I would say there's a segment of people not lucky enough to find a partner and are absolutely disillusioned about the prospects of finding someone. I know some men for example who occasionally end up using escorts after having no luck finding someone for long periods of time. And so yeah, is it really unexpected that people address these needs elsewhere even if it's not ideal?

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Post by workinman »

Horrible article, just gave a bunch of bland examples. Like 'it will be flawless and people like flaws'. The training set would be off a large range of people. Also I think we're a lot closer to the unethical use of deepfakes, even if it's not used by the big sites.

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Post by klyrs »

I have never seen a prediction more obviously wrong about AI. Of all things, humans have shown their propensity to sexualize everything. Porn can be text, hand-drawn, animated, CGI; featuring tentacles, bears, fantastical creatures... and there's a market for it all. Porn isn't about what people "value." Quite the opposite in many cases. Hell, it's already wrong: people are forming romantic, sexualized relationships with AI and Replika's users got mad when they turned down the sexy.

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

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Post by jasonlotito »

stuckinhell wrote: post #16
jrm4 wrote: post #12

On one hand, this essay feels like a whole lot of "cope," but if we roll with the author's definition, I think that what people are (feeling/not feeling) is that all of our entertainment is deeply unsexy, even when it's trying to be. E.g.the whole superhero thing. Good looking strong people, and nothing remotely "sexy" related comes up until She-Hulk, and then people hate it. It's wild to me how ostensibly straight d…

Most shows seem to drip with contempt towards their original fanbases lately. Many many creatives seem to want to make shows for themselves or some mystical non existing ultra nice demographic. She-Hulk is great example of all that especially the finale. The creators on Twitter insulted Marvel Fans, mocked Marvel, and attacked Kevin Feige.

She-Hulk WAS made for the original fan base. It was the original she-hulk. The problem was that people didn't realize what that original she-hulk was.

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

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Post by happytoexplain »

iamben wrote: post #6
darthrupert wrote: post #3

...making it similar to 99% of porn humans create.

This is a very subjective view?!

Most things we say, including many valuable contributions to dialogues, are subjective. We don't need to qualify them with "this is just my opinion, but..." every single time. You are of course free to disagree using as much or as little elaboration as you like, but the additional implication of "you shouldn't have even said it because it's not an objective fact" is not useful.

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

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Post by dotancohen »

Joker_vD wrote: post #9

> For now, when we talk about AI, porn and sex, everything is speculative. Ah, nice to see some humility in attempts to predict the futu— > Broadly speaking, however, we exist in a culture that values humanity. We care, at least on paper, about the human element. AI is unlikely to change that. Nevermind then. Humans, you know, are also "trained" as they grow up. And the new generations, growing up much more exposed t…

I liken this to the autotune songs. I cannot stand autotune. But since about 2005 or so, I can not think of a single song on the radio that doesn't use it.

And for the past two or three years, it seems like autotune isn't even used to emulate a human voice anymore. It's not like Cher augumenting some parts of her singing, rather, the whole song (all of them, almost, at least the garbage that I hear in my children's friends' circles) just sounds completely faked. But these kids grow up on it, and for them real human voices singing sounds unusual.

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