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Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Too bad we can’t try to focus on building people computers that last decades.

I had a computer that was built to last for decades : an original IBM PC XT 8088.

It had a chunk of metal ( paperweight? ) in the keyboard to make it heavier. It was extensible.

The enclosure was made out of steel and it had a power switch which originated from a mainframe.

It was built to withstand nuclear war and it only lasted for a couple of years.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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post #8

Too bad we can’t try to focus on building people computers that last decades.

Decades plural might be a stretch but 8-12 years is doable now. My home desktop and that of my kids are some lightly upgraded Haswell (2013) i7 Dells.

The kids are getting new gaming PCs this week, but we got a solid 5 years from those Dells (after a business got 4) without feeling like it was a painful sacrifice. The kids gaming PCs are definitely faster, but the killer must-have is they support the anti-cheat checks for Valorant, otherwise I might have only upgraded GPUs.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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M1 generation was so good that it prompted way more users to jump to it; that demand would spread over multiple generations if it was not so good. On the other hand purposefully gimping M1 would gimp ARM adoption. By delivering great performance, they've build up a lot of goodwill - people willingly port their stuff to macs.

Yes, I did this. I had a 2019 16” i9 that I replaced with a 14” M1 Pro as soon as I could because the Intel/T2 TouchBar machine was so crash prone, glitchy, and hot. The i9 was the worst Mac I’ve ever had. The M1 Pro is probably the best.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m really curious when we will get there. Especially game consoles, a dedicated chip for running inference could be really fun for developers

I thought Nvidia cards already had some kind of ML hardware for upscaling video games? Which seems them going full circle, since large AI models (except Google TPU code) are usually trained on GPUs, which were originally intended for games.

I was thinking that you’d need a separate chip so that there’s no memory issues when rendering, but I don’t have enough expertise in this

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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The only way I buy new MacBooks now is I try to keep it as long as possible as upgrade only to the oldest and cheapest available model. Last time I bought a m1 Mac air for a bargain price. That’s the only way I’m getting real value. The newest models are simply overpriced. Until they launch something new and discount the current models to a decent price. Same goes for iphones

That's probably the optimal strategy. Apple's products are of good quality, you just need to wait until the prices get reasonable.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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M1 generation was so good that it prompted way more users to jump to it; that demand would spread over multiple generations if it was not so good. On the other hand purposefully gimping M1 would gimp ARM adoption. By delivering great performance, they've build up a lot of goodwill - people willingly port their stuff to macs.

Yes, I did this. I had a 2019 16” i9 that I replaced with a 14” M1 Pro as soon as I could because the Intel/T2 TouchBar machine was so crash prone, glitchy, and hot. The i9 was the worst Mac I’ve ever had. The M1 Pro is probably the best.

And I’ve actually considered upgrading to an M2 Max as I kind of regret only getting 32 GB of RAM in the M1 Pro. However, the trade-in price from Apple is too low.

Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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The dollar is insanely strong right now and global Mac prices raised in accordance with that. In places that don’t use USD, prices shot up by tens of percent overnight while the US prices are the same as ever. Japan, for example, got a price increase of about 40% on all items.

Unsurprisingly, sales declined.

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