Humanness in the Age of AI • Hacker News Board

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by voz_ » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:08 AM UTC

Anything blockchain is a scam, move along.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by CTDOCodebases » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:19 AM UTC

Selling the poison and the cure.

Why look for a market when you can make one?

Nice move!

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by macrolime » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:19 AM UTC

frabcus wrote: post #11

ELI5, how does this work? It claims to both identify humans and be zero knowledge. What’s to stop me registering a bunch of times then letting my bot use my identities? The answer is implied to be my iris scan. But then it isn’t zero knowledge for some entity is it? Unless it is relying on the Orb never being hacked? Any good third party write ups on it? The WorldCoin page is a bit long and doesn’t quickly explain ho…

Seems it creates an "iris code" from the iris scan. Then they want to develop some new hash function to hash the iris code to get an iris hash.

This iris hash should then be stored in some decentralised database like a blockchain or something.

https://worldcoin.org/blog/developers/privacy-deep-dive

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by scotty79 » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:21 AM UTC

The design is very human.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by hkt » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:23 AM UTC

It is a crazy world when digging up PGP's web of trust model seems like a simpler safer solution, but here we are.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by neom » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:26 AM UTC

Here is a talk the engineers gave on the orb scanning system including a hardware breakdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA2ttYtUbF8&ab_channel=ETHGl...

This whole thing gives me the heeby jebies...

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by hkt » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:27 AM UTC

..why do we suppose an iris scan can't be faked by an AI?

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by affgrff2 » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:31 AM UTC

What would prevent a malicious party from 'reaping' identies by force?

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by seydor » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:33 AM UTC

This will definitely become illegal by governments who don't want to lose their monopoly on private data. It is also already possible in many countries to digitally sign documents with government ID.

> (2) preventing the dissemination of AI-generated content

This is not preventing it, since humans can also disemminate such content. Real humans are behind the "bot networks" that some authoritarian countries use on facebook.

Re: Humanness in the Age of AI

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Post by hkt » Sat, Apr 01, 2023, 8:34 AM UTC

> creating 1,000 bot accounts would require finding 1,000 human users willing to consistently verify their authenticity.

New mechanical turk-alike in 3, 2, 1. Really though. This would barely dent the budgets of disinformation campaigns.