Launch HN: Noya (YC W23) – a new kind of design tool
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#23not able to copy/paste images in from the clipboard is very limiting for me. I make my wireframes with powerpoint and love this idea, but I cant do it without snipping stuff around
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#24any ability to import custom boostrap themes? This is great but like, I know we would want it in our style
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
These are great questions: 1. The way I've been thinking about it now is similar to how I use autolayout in Figma. Simple x/y is convenient for a very first rough draft. Then I'll refine my design by making components and adding autolayout as needed once the project grows or I want to collab with somebody. Similarly, Noya will support putting components in "stacks" and other layouts (some of the built-in components d…
Autolayout is definetly a good approach. Webflow is a good commercial example, their builder isn't a canvas experience, it's a nested block experience, so you're forced to think about the layout from the start - and it works. I know of website design agencies who's staff are just designers who can't code - but they build everything they deliver to a clients in webflow. What webflow doesn't have to deal with compared…
Creating real designs and shipping to production within a constrained environment (e.g. https://medium.com/airbnb-engineering/a-deep-dive-into-airbn...) can be super high leverage, so that's ultimately where we want to go. Right now every company that wants to do this has to build it themselves. We didn't use an off-the-shelf solution like Webflow at Airbnb (afaik) because there was no realistic way to integrate it into our stack. I'm not sure if Noya's code export will be what people end up using for this - maybe some kind of JSON-config or something else will be the more useful artifact.
As an analogy, Retool makes it easy to create internal tools, and is usable by more than just eng. But somebody on the eng team needs to first configure it a bit (e.g. plug in the company's data sources) before making real tools becomes possible/efficient. Noya will require a similar level of configuration to become usable in these more advanced scenarios, but we think the value it delivers will be worth the effort.
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#27under your table widget, it fails to render date formats correctly, like 1/1/2003 will just display 1
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#28Search image for an Orange Circle. The results are hilarious
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#291) I don't use react, I use web components. This product seems very React centric, which kills it for use for a lot of people
2) It's not helpful to me to be limited to the Chakra UI design system, in order for this to be useful for my teams, I'd need to be able to add our web component design system. I assume there would be some sort of "mapping" process where I could indicate "this is a header component" and "this is a sidebar" component, etc...
The absolute killer feature would be to allow me (storybook style) to add any web component and place it on the screen. I've been searching for a visual designer like this forever, it seems like the obvious solution with web components, but I still haven't found it.
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#30That said, the real value to me would be using this tool to make medium-fidelity mockups that look like my existing site. It looks like maybe your templates would allow me to make mockups in Noya that match my existing colors/etc, but I'd be coupled to ChakraUI. If the pre-existing components from my pre-existing site don't match Chakra's components, it sounds like I'd be out of luck?