i dont get these apps, are they just chatgpt + preprompting with "write a cover letter"? Cant this easily be done with chatgpt itself?
Yes, yes.
Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume
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#22um dup? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35113802
Seems like it was posted by the same person, so I guess they didn't get enough traction two weeks ago and felt the need to repost it.
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#23i dont get these apps, are they just chatgpt + preprompting with "write a cover letter"? Cant this easily be done with chatgpt itself?
That's exactly what this is, I've been using ChatGPT to rewrite my resumes and cover letters for months now.
If you've been doing it for months, maybe it's not working very well. ;)
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#24Bullshit like this is why hiring processes are so insane now.
Agreed. In my most recent round of hiring, I used the presence of a relevant cover letter as a point in favor of the applicant when deciding whether to invite them in for an intro call. It showed me the person actually looked into the company a little bit and wasn't just spamming. It also helped weed out the spam since I'd get cover letters telling me how excited the applicant was to work at a web3 fintech while we're doing almost the exact opposite thing. Don't get me wrong; I think like 85% of people I invited back for calls did not have a cover letter, but it really helped in the weeding process.
If it becomes an effortless throwaway generated by an AI, it no longer has value. Additionally, you may be shooting yourself in the foot. If I see something in a cover letter that catches my eye, I'm going to bring it up in our call to learn more. Not to quiz you or play gotcha, but because it probably intreagues me and I want to learn more. If an AI wrote it and you don't know what you submitted to the job posting, that's not going to reflect well in a call.
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#25So AI resumes and AI cover letters are now being auto-submitted to AI generated automated job postings then parsed by hiring AI. What an absolute circus this is becoming.
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#26I wonder what I would think of a candidate who submits a computer-generated text for me to read, especially when the input is not even human bullet points but just the job post and the resume. We don't have any formal process for hiring (we're expect this is not going to go over well. As an IT person, I do have to commend the automation, though. There are pros and cons to weigh as you use this.
If they actually proofread or edit it, how are you going to know? How is it any worse than some job coach formulaically writing it based on the job description and resume? Cover letters are ignored all the time, and generally just serve to add as friction to reduce candidates.
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#27This just devalues cover letters. As a hiring manager I am strongly motivated to avoid channels which would cause me to wade through a bunch of fake crap. If there turns out to be no way to filter out AI generated text, we will end up that you have to attend an in person interview at some intermediary whose job is just to verify that you are a human being and you have some idea what the job ad said.
If the main reason you’re making me write a cover letter is to verify that I am human and know what the job description said, you don’t deserve anything better than LLM generated.
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#28This is so funny, I was just doing this with ChatGPT to apply for jobs. If you make me fill out a bullshit form where I fake being passionate about your company, I’m going to get a chatbot to write it for me. End of story. I just need a job, why do you care if I’m passionate about building CRUD apps for you?
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#29So AI resumes and AI cover letters are now being auto-submitted to AI generated automated job postings then parsed by hiring AI. What an absolute circus this is becoming.
As long as the AI hires my wetware neural network for an acceptable salary, I’m game
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#30So AI resumes and AI cover letters are now being auto-submitted to AI generated automated job postings then parsed by hiring AI. What an absolute circus this is becoming.
Has anyone hiring for a company with more than 10 employees in the 21st century even read a cover letter?
And if they have, are they stupid enough to actually believe it?
For most people looking for work, rent's due next month, and they are machine-gunning applications, they aren't actually deeply passionate about getting a job at .