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The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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Re: The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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Very nicely written article! Easily approachable for someone in high school.

I just had one problem in reading it - the somewhat inconsistent use of fonts - often in the same line was not pleasant. The numeric zero ('0') in particular looks like character 'oh' ('o').

Re: The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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It's fortunate that we so seldom need to solve cubic or higher order polynomial equations. Quadratic equations come up in physics all the time, because it's very common to have a constant acceleration. But when does one ever come across a constant jerk?

I always wondered why that is for a long time (in basic physics that at least). It wasn't until grad school that I understood that position and velocity are enough to uniquely determine a trajectory on a manifold.

Re: The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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It's fortunate that we so seldom need to solve cubic or higher order polynomial equations. Quadratic equations come up in physics all the time, because it's very common to have a constant acceleration. But when does one ever come across a constant jerk?

I always wondered why that is for a long time (in basic physics that at least). It wasn't until grad school that I understood that position and velocity are enough to uniquely determine a trajectory on a manifold.

This is super interesting, is this generalizable to n-dimensional manifolds?

Re: The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always wondered why that is for a long time (in basic physics that at least). It wasn't until grad school that I understood that position and velocity are enough to uniquely determine a trajectory on a manifold.

This is super interesting, is this generalizable to n-dimensional manifolds?

Yep! More specifically I'm basically talking about geodesics on Riemannian manifolds.

Re: The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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It's fortunate that we so seldom need to solve cubic or higher order polynomial equations. Quadratic equations come up in physics all the time, because it's very common to have a constant acceleration. But when does one ever come across a constant jerk?

I've worked with several.

I did audibly chuckle at this one. Good job, doesn't happen to me often online!

Re: The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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It's fortunate that we so seldom need to solve cubic or higher order polynomial equations. Quadratic equations come up in physics all the time, because it's very common to have a constant acceleration. But when does one ever come across a constant jerk?

Doesn't every startup come bundled with one?

Re: The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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Nice write-up! Incidentally I ran all the exercises through ChatGPT which seems to have completely crushed them, with work shown. Forget about assigning grades via math homework, it only took a few minutes (though I should go through and check it by hand I think). [edit looking at the answers in more detail it seems to go down some strange rabbit holes that probably were not what the author intended] Also, if one wan…

Does this work for more advanced maths? It's a shame the amount you can spend per book for self-study, without access to the exercise answers needed to confirm your comprehension.

Re: The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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There’s an interesting detail that the article omits, which is that in that long expression, it’s possible to end up with complex numbers under the cube root sign even if the roots of the polynomial are all real! The formula was discovered before mathematicians accepted the idea of imaginary numbers which made the formula suspect in its early history.

Re: The symmetry that makes solving math equations easy

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It's fortunate that we so seldom need to solve cubic or higher order polynomial equations. Quadratic equations come up in physics all the time, because it's very common to have a constant acceleration. But when does one ever come across a constant jerk?

IMO the bigger part is that numerical root finding works really well in practice. There's plenty of times you need to solve for roots of equations, but getting within 1e-6 is often good enough.
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