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Rolling Stone left out the reason why FBI raided journalist's home

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News that cares this much about sensationalizing isn't news. While I'm entirely for unfettered protection of free speech, free speech doesn't include the right to lie, at least not in a professional capacity. Perhaps we need to start punishing intentionally deceptive reporting by not allowing these people to call themselves journalists and / or not allowing these sources of information to call themselves news.

Free speech generally does include the right to lie. There are only very limited legal circumstances where a lie could be a criminal offense or cause for civil liability. Even if you could somehow ban people from calling themselves "journalists" that would be meaningless under US federal law as journalists enjoy no more rights or privileges than any other common citizen.

Indeed, the current Fox vs Dominion case is highlighting that very point.

Re: Rolling Stone left out the reason why FBI raided journalist's home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with stating stuff like this is it can be used as an example of how deep the conspiracy goes rather than a refutation.

To the conspiracy minded, sure. How can any discussion be had with these people who don't require evidence in order to make bold claims?

Honestly, no idea. Seems a fool's errand.

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We should not forget that illicit images are easily 'found' in convenient places to get people put behind bars. I don't really blame this journalist for suspecting the illicit images claim may not be as true as it appears.

Isn't it a reporters job to report the facts? The fact is the FBI was investigating them for a specific crime. It's already suspect that they left out that key fact. It's extra suspect when it turns out they had personal connections to the accused.

If you think the government only reports facts, stop reading Rolling Stone. Read the FBI report.

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We should not forget that illicit images are easily 'found' in convenient places to get people put behind bars. I don't really blame this journalist for suspecting the illicit images claim may not be as true as it appears.

So then report on that?

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We should not forget that illicit images are easily 'found' in convenient places to get people put behind bars. I don't really blame this journalist for suspecting the illicit images claim may not be as true as it appears.

Isn't it a reporters job to report the facts? The fact is the FBI was investigating them for a specific crime. It's already suspect that they left out that key fact. It's extra suspect when it turns out they had personal connections to the accused.

I'd give Rolling Stone a little bit of slack on this one.

The last time they rushed to paint suspects as rapists ahead of any sort of actual trial, they got sued to hell for defamation when the allegations turned out to be fraudulent altogether.

I could excuse them for being a little slower on the draw this time around. "Being investigated by the FBI" does not mean the subject is automatically guilty.

My wife's ex was "being investigated by CPS" at one point. He didn't do anything, but it is/was humiliating for him nonetheless.

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We should not forget that illicit images are easily 'found' in convenient places to get people put behind bars. I don't really blame this journalist for suspecting the illicit images claim may not be as true as it appears.

The journalist quit after the pedophilla charges were edited out of the article.

Re: Rolling Stone left out the reason why FBI raided journalist's home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know what you're referring to but don't think this is one of those cases. The affidavit is very thorough about what was found. Starts on page 3. https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1566416/downl...

To split the difference a bit... They have him "on tape" IMing multiple other suspects, talking extremely graphically about pedophilia, and exchanging images and video of same.

"on tape" meaning they have a video of him in front of a computer engaging in the conversation?

I skimmed through the affidavit & couldn't find that claim. It was difficult to read the content so I didn't look to deeply into it. Could you post a quote of the claim if it's there?

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I'm incredibly skeptical of the machine, as well as NPR, which mostly exists to support the narrative of the ruling elite. However, I recommend everyone skeptical of this to read the full affidavit -- or at least as much as you can stomach. https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1566416/downl...
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