These guys have some latent homosexual tendencies (not that it's a bad thing per se obviously).
But I don't think it's controversial to say that male models and Hollywood actors are not exactly manly figures.
Men paying to have their jaws broken in the name of ‘manliness’
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Re: Men paying to have their jaws broken in the name of ‘manliness’
#22It sounds horrifying, but I don't think these men are that irrational. Being good looking is the recipe for living life on easier mode, and a very thin sliver of bone on a man's face can be the difference from being far below average looking to far above average looking. It seems entirely rational to make a short-term sacrifice for a good life. If you're against this, have you thought about the intense frustration an…
But the article itself lists less drastic procedures as options: > As technology has advanced, bringing with it cheaper, and less invasive procedures like injectable fillers and Botox, the “superhero jawline”, or the “GI Jaw”, as one surgeon has marketed it, is increasingly available to all. Perhaps even if one agrees in principle that people should be free to pursue cosmetic surgery as they see fit, one could still…
I'd say 2 things.
1) I would of course recommend avoiding surgery where possible.
2) If there are other potential medical treatments for this kind of thing, I'd assume they have different kinds of tradeoffs in these respects: pain, risk of complications, length of recovery, odds of success, and cost, among others. It's hard to judge what the best treatment option for any individual is without knowing the pros and cons of all of the potential options. Maybe non-surgical options are much safer, but have far lower odds of success? I have no idea.
Re: Men paying to have their jaws broken in the name of ‘manliness’
#23Why do we have to shame people for cosmetic or gender affirming surgery?
Re: Men paying to have their jaws broken in the name of ‘manliness’
#24Why do we have to shame people for cosmetic or gender affirming surgery?
Shame is your word, but we do need to have a voice of reason telling people that cosmetic surgery is stupid, regardless of your reasons. Undergoing actual surgery can kill you and when used for emotional reasons generally doesn't produce the results you want anyways.
And yes, all cosmetic surgery. I know someone who almost died from complications from a simple facelift.
There's an industry pushing these useless surgeries, and of course hostile communities (pro-ana, etc) pushing people into them or into the mental illness that makes them attractive. The more people who speak out about the need to modify yourself to be happy, the better.
Re: Men paying to have their jaws broken in the name of ‘manliness’
#25Disgusting clickbait title. You could say this about any surgery.
Right, and people should. Chopping up the bodies of insecure people is bad for society even if it's good for surgeons.
Re: Men paying to have their jaws broken in the name of ‘manliness’
#26Why do we have to shame people for cosmetic or gender affirming surgery?
Shame is your word, but we do need to have a voice of reason telling people that cosmetic surgery is stupid, regardless of your reasons. Undergoing actual surgery can kill you and when used for emotional reasons generally doesn't produce the results you want anyways. And yes, all cosmetic surgery. I know someone who almost died from complications from a simple facelift. There's an industry pushing these useless surge…
People do things literally every day that can lead to death. Speaking about the risks without talking about the rewards is irrelevant.
Or you need to have an argument that isn't about the risks.
Re: Men paying to have their jaws broken in the name of ‘manliness’
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shame is your word, but we do need to have a voice of reason telling people that cosmetic surgery is stupid, regardless of your reasons. Undergoing actual surgery can kill you and when used for emotional reasons generally doesn't produce the results you want anyways. And yes, all cosmetic surgery. I know someone who almost died from complications from a simple facelift. There's an industry pushing these useless surge…
People do things literally every day that can lead to death. Speaking about the risks without talking about the rewards is irrelevant. Or you need to have an argument that isn't about the risks.
Yeah, generally the pro-X communities convey the benefits more then well enough and downplay the risks.
And there often is no benefit - an anorexic would not be helped by liposuction even though I acknowledge they feel they would.