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The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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Re: The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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This article references salt consumption multiple times. I thought that was a myth of the past. Salt consumption has almost zero to do with blood pressure. IIRC, it's primarily based on eating more calories than one burns. As always, eat less, move more. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-t...

I'm actually curious about this: if that's true, why do hospitals still do low-salt diets for critical heart disease patients?

Re: The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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This article references salt consumption multiple times. I thought that was a myth of the past. Salt consumption has almost zero to do with blood pressure. IIRC, it's primarily based on eating more calories than one burns. As always, eat less, move more. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-t...

I'm actually curious about this: if that's true, why do hospitals still do low-salt diets for critical heart disease patients?

Bad habits are hard to break

Re: The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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This is strange to callout "saturated fats" as one of the primary issues, therefore "eat less bread".

I generate, I agree that eating less bread is important (in general), specifically white bread, but the idea that "saturated fat" is bad is old and many studies in the last decade have actually reversed this opinion.

The entire rise of keto diet is based on having as much saturated fat as possible, and to stay away from polyunsaturated (and only go to monounsaturated if possible).

More data in: https://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Fat-Surprise-audiobook/dp/B00...

Re: The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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Nothing tortillas can't fix.

Can't tell if this is sarcastic. Hispanic communities suffer from large amounts of obesity, some due to genetic issues, but diet is an overwhelming factor. A proper tortilla has three ingredients: flour, lard and salt. Not exactly a staple in a slimming diet.

Tortillas are low calorie (100-150 calories), most likely better for you than bread. I guess it depends how many you eat, and if they're fried.

Re: The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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post #2

https://archive.is/5HpVD

Anyone getting 'your connection is not secure' when trying this page in firefox? There doesn't seem to be any sort of prompt to 'accept the risk and continue' either

No problems for me with Firefox 111.0 (64-bit). Upon clicking, I first went to a captcha page, then to the content.

The lock icon merely offers me this information:

> "You are securely connected to this page."

> "Verified by: Let's Encrypt"

Re: The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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> Twenty years later, a turkey sandwich contained about 820 calories. Not sure where they got those numbers from. Just for comparison - in England, where many people eat sandwiches every day, the range is more like 300-500 for a supermarket sandwich. The meat is processed, but chicken is a fairly popular option, and the bread is thinner and less sweet. Really the main takeaway is to reduce your bread. Carbs are terri…

> Carbs are terrible for diets

Excess, over-processed carbs are terrible. The right amount of carbs from whole or minimally processed foods are just fine.

Over-processed: white flour, refined or concentrated sugar, carb heavy snack foods, deserts, juiced or cooked fruit

Minimally processed: cooked grains or potatoes, whole raw fruit

Re: The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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post #5

> Twenty years later, a turkey sandwich contained about 820 calories. Not sure where they got those numbers from. Just for comparison - in England, where many people eat sandwiches every day, the range is more like 300-500 for a supermarket sandwich. The meat is processed, but chicken is a fairly popular option, and the bread is thinner and less sweet. Really the main takeaway is to reduce your bread. Carbs are terri…

There’s a big misconception that wraps are somehow more healthy than bread. They’re more processed and have at least as many calories as bread does, despite often being presented as the healthier option.

Re: The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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post #5

> Twenty years later, a turkey sandwich contained about 820 calories. Not sure where they got those numbers from. Just for comparison - in England, where many people eat sandwiches every day, the range is more like 300-500 for a supermarket sandwich. The meat is processed, but chicken is a fairly popular option, and the bread is thinner and less sweet. Really the main takeaway is to reduce your bread. Carbs are terri…

Modern bread tastes like cake to me.

Re: The American Diet Has a Sandwich Problem

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This article references salt consumption multiple times. I thought that was a myth of the past. Salt consumption has almost zero to do with blood pressure. IIRC, it's primarily based on eating more calories than one burns. As always, eat less, move more. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-t...

There are at least some studies that link salt to increased appetite. Which shouldn't be a shock - eating tasty things makes you want to eat more.

But in this case journalists like padding out lists of unhealthy ingredients.

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