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Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

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Post by brushfoot »

carapace wrote: post #8

Well, I think I just retired. Even knowing this was coming, it's still a bit unnerving. Sad too, but it's for the best. Let the machines program the machines. Schmidhuber's Gödelmachine. The automatic scientist .

Just the opposite, this is letting me pick up more work than ever. The nature of that continues to shift as rote memorization becomes less important, but that was already the case thanks to earlier forms of code completion.

It may be that breadth is becoming more valuable than depth. The engineering design process is more important than ever, along with soft skills and an eye for what kind of work matters.

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

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Post by yieldcrv »

stuff20230314 wrote: post #12

That's cool and all, but can it do "in this existing code, please amend this feature"? Also useful, "please cover this code with meaningful unit tests"?

> Also useful, "please cover this code with meaningful unit tests"?

GPT-3.5 is already really good at that. If you aren't using ChatGPT for your unit tests I'd suspect you're on a Performance Improvement Plan by now

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

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Post by sublinear »

carapace wrote: post #8

Well, I think I just retired. Even knowing this was coming, it's still a bit unnerving. Sad too, but it's for the best. Let the machines program the machines. Schmidhuber's Gödelmachine. The automatic scientist .

Ugh not this again.

Who the hell is running a business where the developers are mere struggling code monkeys who have no other value to the company, would never code review the AI output, and would find it faster to repl a bunch of imprecise prompts instead of just writing the damn code in the first place?

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

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Post by nodemaker »

carapace wrote: post #8

Well, I think I just retired. Even knowing this was coming, it's still a bit unnerving. Sad too, but it's for the best. Let the machines program the machines. Schmidhuber's Gödelmachine. The automatic scientist .

Yeah you can start farming! But oh wait tractors can do the job better than humans there too

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Post by ozten »

I don't know TLA+ and haven't had time to learn it. Could GPT-4 be a boon for esoteric PL that have had trouble gaining mass adoption?

Clearly, one needs to learn and understand TLA+ before one can trust generated proofs, but maybe GPT-4 could be the mentor or gentle on-ramp I was missing.

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Post by stuff20230314 »

carapace wrote: post #8

Well, I think I just retired. Even knowing this was coming, it's still a bit unnerving. Sad too, but it's for the best. Let the machines program the machines. Schmidhuber's Gödelmachine. The automatic scientist .

Because of some cherry-picked niche samples?

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

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Post by nodemaker »

brushfoot wrote: post #21
carapace wrote: post #8

Well, I think I just retired. Even knowing this was coming, it's still a bit unnerving. Sad too, but it's for the best. Let the machines program the machines. Schmidhuber's Gödelmachine. The automatic scientist .

Just the opposite, this is letting me pick up more work than ever. The nature of that continues to shift as rote memorization becomes less important, but that was already the case thanks to earlier forms of code completion. It may be that breadth is becoming more valuable than depth. The engineering design process is more important than ever, along with soft skills and an eye for what kind of work matters.

Exactly! I think the difference between me and some FAANG leetcoder just became hugely apparent

Before calculators were invented I imagine people thought that people who could multiply two big numbers were very smart!

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

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Post by simonw »

flatiron wrote: post #4

Any concerns about sending code directly to a third party? I’m very hesitant to use any tool that is sending my assets to the cloud to be used who knows how.

This is one of the reasons I'm so excited about being able to run large language models on my own laptop.

I've managed to get LLaMA to generate snippets of Python code already, and with some fine tuning I imagine it could become equivalent to Copilot. https://til.simonwillison.net/llms/llama-7b-m2#user-content-...

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