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Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

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Re: Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coca Cola & Red Bull are massive, they surely have tiny marketing spend… Right?

You’re missing the point. This isn’t a marketing piece. JPM doesn’t need to compare themselves to SVB for any reason, that’s like comparing David and Goliath. What’s purpose would that accomplish?

They’re doing what every bank has been doing: reassuring everyone that they’re not at risk.

Re: Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

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I am surprised they show JPM in all their comparison charts (typically research doesn't cover their own employer). By showing JPM as an outlier on the opposite of the spectrum to SVB, it feels a little bit like a marketing document.

I can't speak for literally all businesses, but more or less everything a business publishes is marketing/PR. They fully control what they allow to be published, why wouldn't they make sure it paints them in a positive light wherever possible?

Re: Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

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This really sheds clarity on the situation. SVB was in bad shape long before the run, and there is no apparent next domino to fall. FDIC limits are very well understood and relatively easy to work with (despite the rampant FUD about “who’s going to use multiple bank accounts”, deposit sweep programs are highly available and convenient). This is a risk management failure by depositors (in addition to the bank of cours…

This is not risk management failure by depositors.

Depositors can and should assume that regulations prevent banks from assuming outsize risk like this.

This is a policy failure of the regulators that oversee banks. Banks should not be allowed to have so little cash on hand, especially when we knew with high likelihood the fed would raise rates.

Re: Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

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I think we’re too accustomed to startups here to recognize that SVB was actually assuming quite a bit of risk. We acknowledge most banks don’t want to touch startups and that startups will have a harder time banking in the future. Yet I don’t see much consideration for the fact that there is a good reason most banks see startups as risky. It’s just explained away as “they don’t understand .” Also consider the past 10…

Banks assume a lot of risk if they are overweight in any single sector. Having some startups is fine if it’s not a giant portion of your depositor base to the point that you have major sector risk.

I’m really glad ZeroTier used a boring old mainstream bank that didn’t specialize in any one sector. We looked at SVB. Bullet dodged.

Re: Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

#25
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the irony of this whole situation is VCs and startups pouncing on the chaos to encourage people to move their money into even more opaque neobanks eg Mercury/Brex/Ramp as if they don’t have the same issues with relying on VC funded startup deposits but even worse in that their balance sheets are hidden.

Agreed that these neobanks aren't a wise choice, but I still think the VCs made the right call in advising their portfolio companies - they had a literal vested interest in their success, they had to do something, this eventually was going to happen.

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Maybe a stupid question: if banks can collapse from a bank run, shouldn’t the entire model be questioned? A bank run is simply when a threshold number of customers decide to withdraw their cash, with every right to do so. With social media + frictionless mobile banking, the entire notion of teetering your model on mitigating the risk of a “bank run” seems anti-customer, regressive, and unsustainable.

Most depositor's money is insured by the government, so there is no reason people would panic withdrawal their money

Re: Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

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post #4

I am surprised they show JPM in all their comparison charts (typically research doesn't cover their own employer). By showing JPM as an outlier on the opposite of the spectrum to SVB, it feels a little bit like a marketing document.

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Re: Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

#28
An important stand out quote to me here: “ It’s fair to ask about the underwriting discipline of VC firms that put most of their liquidity in a single bank with this kind of risk profile“.

I really don’t understand why these firms didn’t use at least two banks for their deposits. Surely these tech firms have heard of single points of failure being problematic?

Re: Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coca Cola & Red Bull are massive, they surely have tiny marketing spend… Right?

You’re missing the point. This isn’t a marketing piece. JPM doesn’t need to compare themselves to SVB for any reason, that’s like comparing David and Goliath. What’s purpose would that accomplish?

To reassure their creditors.

Re: Silicon Valley Bank Failure [pdf]

#30

I think we’re too accustomed to startups here to recognize that SVB was actually assuming quite a bit of risk. We acknowledge most banks don’t want to touch startups and that startups will have a harder time banking in the future. Yet I don’t see much consideration for the fact that there is a good reason most banks see startups as risky. It’s just explained away as “they don’t understand .” Also consider the past 10…

I don’t think startups will have a harder time banking in the future. This isn’t even the fault of startups. It’s a complete risk management mistake on the side of the bank. Buying 10 year low yield securities and not hedging them against rising rates. Plenty of banks would love to have the deposits of startups and VCs. I bet a bank like Mercury or some other ones will grow to take SVB’s place.

This is exactly right. This has nothing to do with the startups using the bank
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