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Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by brador »

Leaders should lead with a unique style. Their way.

Larry's playing catchup with Facebook while thinking he can be Steve Jobs, and that, together with guarding the cents by removing the little things that made life @Google awesome (bagels anyone?) has led to low morale among the workforce.

Geeks with low morale don't get shit done.

They don't innovate. They don't create.

Google staff aren't code monkeys, they're not going to stick around to keep the seats warm.

The good ones will spend every hour of the day doing the bare minimum required to still get a paycheck while finding a new job.

It's money not passion that's preventing them leaving. And that's a pretty depressing atmosphere to work in.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by staunch »

I would be much more interested at working at the new Page dominated Google than the old Schmidt one. At least he's trying to do what Steve Jobs did so well: make big leaps forward.

Apple found it necessary to own more and more pieces of the stack to innovate. Google is finding itself in the same position. Almost all of the best products are restricted/closed/proprietary systems. Macs, OSX, iPhone/iPad, Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, etc.

It certainly would be nice if there was a real competitor to Google like Android competes with iOS.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by lsb »

pg wrote: post #3

You don't have to get a job at another company. You could also start your own.

This seems like the perfect time to relaunch "Larry and Sergey won't respect you in the morning."

http://ycombinator.com/ad.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/martindavidsson/96160482

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by angrycoder »

g1x wrote: post #14

> There’s a full-on war for developer talent that the company has already been struggling with– along with every single startup and sexier large companies like Facebook, Twitter and Zynga. What makes Zynga, Twitter and Facebook "sexier"? > Then again, a lot of what we’re hearing is from X-Googlers. Google has been competing for employees for a while by simply shelling out more cash. Perhaps newer hires are just there…

I think the author intended that as sexier than other large companies, meaning it is sexier to work at Facebook than microsoft, SAP, Oracle, or whatever.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by moocow01 »

Ah yes... and everybody thought Google was immune to the tech company lifecycle. My guess is this is where the downslide begins (which will probably be decades for a company of Google's size).

I've seen this play out in small and large companies alike ... once the business model gets solidified and turns into a cash cow all the execs go into defense mode which manifest itself in a number of ways but my way or the highway is usually a big one.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by capkutay »

staunch wrote: post #23

I would be much more interested at working at the new Page dominated Google than the old Schmidt one. At least he's trying to do what Steve Jobs did so well: make big leaps forward. Apple found it necessary to own more and more pieces of the stack to innovate. Google is finding itself in the same position. Almost all of the best products are restricted/closed/proprietary systems. Macs, OSX, iPhone/iPad, Facebook, Twi…

Schmidt is the type of person that VCs/investors/financial firms like to see in charge. They feel more comfortable when level-headed, experienced executives are in charge of a company. Now that Google has risen to the top, they have more freedom to put the creative types in charge.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by kls »

I can't help but feel like this is the equivalent event of Ballmer throwing the chair.

It's good to have decent among a company so long as it is promoted in a healthy manner, having employees grumble about it at the water cooler only serves to infect the ranks but promoting an open forum where any person can decent and others can rebut allows people to at least understand why the decision where made. In some manner the conflict may be resolved for all parties through a unforeseen solution and by having a forum you promote solutioning. If I worked at Google I would be looking for the door, not because of the issue at hand but because when someone else is told to GTFO, I take it as a signal that it's probably time for me to go to because the open forum has died. It's sad really they where the Bell Labs of this time, a dream and people need dreams.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by pnathan »

bjdixon wrote: post #2

So, what are people using as alternatives these days? I use gmail, google talk and google.com exclusively for email, chat and search. If (for arguments sake) I wanted to switch what is there of similar quality that still be around and relevant in 3 or 4 years?

Email: I use my alumni account which happens to be Microsoft-based.

Chat: IRC/AIM/Yahoo/etc - just grab something with a libpurple backend.

Search: DuckDuckGo most of the time, Google otherwise.

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