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Re: The Perl Foundation got $100,000 donation from the Craigslist Charitable Fund

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Post by jonathansizz » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 7:27 PM UTC

soapdog wrote: post #18

On a related topic, can someone recommend a good book for learning perl these days? I never learned it and think it is a good skill.

Depending on how adept you already are at programming:

1] Learning Perl (6th Edition) is excellent for beginners.

2] Modern Perl (2nd Edition was just published; free ebook version should be out by next week) assumes a basic knowledge of both programming in general and of Perl in particular, but is well-written and very clear.

3] Programming Perl (the 4th Edition covering Perl 5.14 will be a huge update from 3rd Edition (published in 2000 for Perl 5.6!); should be published in February, according to O'Reilly) is the famous Camel book and the ultimate Perl reference.

The Perl Cookbook is a little outdated now, although it's not too bad and there is talk on the mailing lists of updating it. But it's not really aimed at learning Perl though.

As already mentioned, PerlMonks is also a great website to browse.

Re: The Perl Foundation got $100,000 donation from the Craigslist Charitable Fund

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Post by draegtun » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 7:53 PM UTC

jzawodn wrote: post #17

draegtun wrote: post #6

A few months ago there was this discussion on HN - Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult? ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3247925 ). Unfortunately Perl doesn't have a Sugar Daddy :( However it does have a few benevolent Uncles :) Here's the breakdown of the last 12 months contributions... $10,000 Jun 2011 Vienna.pm $10,000 Jul 2011 Booking.com $10,000 Jul 2011 cPanel €100,000 Jan 2012 Booking.com $1…

That earlier discussion is part of what sparked this (craigslist) donation, FWIW. (I work there)

It's great to know something good came out of that discussion despite the silly trolling that blemished parts of it.

Re: The Perl Foundation got $100,000 donation from the Craigslist Charitable Fund

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Post by draegtun » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 8:05 PM UTC

andrewvc wrote: post #15

smosher wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By now Perl 6 is viewed as best an interesting research project by organizations using Perl 5 in production. As a member of an organization using Perl 5 (among many other languages), I should probably speak up. Though we haven't donated many thousands to TPF, it may be worth noting that with a minimal set of modules, similar stability and performance guarantee within an order of magnitude Perl 5's, we would be using…

Here's the question I have. Perl5 -> Perl6 is not a natural progression. It's such a radically different language that going to say Python or Ruby is nearly as similar a change. Why's it obvious to you guys?

I believe the original plan was that you could run perl5 & perl6 together like so...

    use v6;
    .say for 1..10;
  
    {
      use v5;
      say for 1..10;
    }

    # back to perl6

That might (still) be a pipedream however one reality which is working right now is that you can run some perl5 modules from within Rakudo (Perl6 on Parrot):

    use v6;
    use CGI:from;

    my $q = CGI.new;
    print $q.header,
        $q.start_html('Hello World'),
        $q.h1('Hello World'),
        $q.end_html;

ref: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2188433

Re: The Perl Foundation got $100,000 donation from the Craigslist Charitable Fund

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Post by vasundhar » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 8:29 PM UTC

jonathansizz wrote: post #21

soapdog wrote: post #18

On a related topic, can someone recommend a good book for learning perl these days? I never learned it and think it is a good skill.

Depending on how adept you already are at programming: 1] Learning Perl (6th Edition) is excellent for beginners. 2] Modern Perl (2nd Edition was just published; free ebook version should be out by next week) assumes a basic knowledge of both programming in general and of Perl in particular, but is well-written and very clear. 3] Programming Perl (the 4th Edition covering Perl 5.14 will be a huge update from 3rd Edit…

1] Perl Hacks/Cookbook 2] Intermediate Perl 3] Perl5 by Example +/ Perl by Example - 4] Perl Black Book I thought will be useful for people wanting more information.

Re: The Perl Foundation got $100,000 donation from the Craigslist Charitable Fund

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Post by soapdog » Wed, Jan 25, 2012, 10:50 PM UTC

jonathansizz wrote: post #21

soapdog wrote: post #18

On a related topic, can someone recommend a good book for learning perl these days? I never learned it and think it is a good skill.

Depending on how adept you already are at programming: 1] Learning Perl (6th Edition) is excellent for beginners. 2] Modern Perl (2nd Edition was just published; free ebook version should be out by next week) assumes a basic knowledge of both programming in general and of Perl in particular, but is well-written and very clear. 3] Programming Perl (the 4th Edition covering Perl 5.14 will be a huge update from 3rd Edit…

Thanks for the tips! Will get the modern perl book and the new camel book when the new edition is published!

=)

Re: The Perl Foundation got $100,000 donation from the Craigslist Charitable Fund

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Post by soapdog » Wed, Jan 25, 2012, 10:50 PM UTC

berntb wrote: post #19

soapdog wrote: post #18

On a related topic, can someone recommend a good book for learning perl these days? I never learned it and think it is a good skill.

I'm fond of the "Modern Perl" book, but you should have programming background for that. You won't go wrong by buying brian d foy's books either. (Best is probably to ask at PerlMonks.org what to read.) Edit: My best advice for a newbie is to get the Cookbook after the first basics. The Perl one is really helpful.

That is my idea. Thanks! =)