My best guess was Water too today. But Temperature as a solution was a way far imo. Can you align the similarity index somehow? Does it evolve? Is it GPT?
Contexto: Find the Secret Word
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#22Seems similar to https://semantle.com/ but backed by a different "similarity" calculation. The "bar" visualization is also nicer to track how close/far you are.
I might as well take this opportunity to plug my clone of Semantle which uses a tSNE visualization. I've heard many people say this helps them visualize the chains of logic in their guesses.
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#23It’s a little janky. My word was “temperature”. I got to “water” (no. 29) and then got stuck. Words leading up to it were rain, cloud, storm. Hard to take the leap from there to “temperature”
Keeping it generic I started with some identical words. It took me a little bit to realize I was getting some conflicting things (i.e. opposites that were similar) so needed to change the kind of word I was looking for. Wouldn't really call it janky because of that though, trying to figure out what could be related to the words so far is the point not a side effect. Looking at the final closest words I might have been upset having put in something like #4 and getting lost though.
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#24Something is missing, I feel like.
The basic idea is sound, but it's painful to both start and end a game, and winning isn't very satisfying.
One of wordle's biggest flaws is "the opening". If you're going to have a daily puzzle, it shouldn't be exactly the same board to start every day. Games are so fast that this idea doesn't totally work there, but I think it would be better if they gave you a starting word every day.
The same rule applies here, I think. Your opening move set is basically fixed, and no one is really interested in learning the theory of that. Make the opening less tedious by starting with a couple of random words already played. This has two added benefits. The simplest is that it serves as a tutorial, in all likelihood, if you gave a list of prechosen words and their scores, and a textbox, people would already completely understand the rules of the game without any explanation at all. This is very valuable to a game like this, as it lowers friction.
The second benefit is more specific to this game, but it gives players a lot of hypotheses to test new words against from the outset. You want to reward play that deduces the next word not only from similarity to chosen close words, but also dissimilarity from chosen far words. In order to do that though, you have to choose a pretty large disparate set of far words. This hurts your score and is not particularly dependent on the days puzzle (ie you should pick about the same set every time). The game should probably do this for you, at the beginning.
Finally, you should reveal how many letters are in the target word. I don't want to just probe the model with synonyms. That's extremely tedious. give me enough information to make a plausible guess.
You could even consider a variant of the game where you're only allowed to guess words with the target number of letters, which might actually be mroe fun.
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#25It's weird that Celsius, Kelvin and Fahrenheit were so far apart.
It's because it's not based on a simple measure of the similarity of meaning of the words. It's based on how often the words are used next to each other, which means that since celsius is used more often with the word temperature in the corpus, it will be closer to the word temperature.
Try game #160 (25/02).
Input as guesses:
digit
number
car
compare
Once you got the solution, please explain to me how it works again.
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#26some word -> a high score
another word with a meaning close to the previous one -> this word doesn't count
OK, thanks for making this but I don't why I can't say the_word_which_shall_not_be_named - it is a perfectly valid word after all even if some feel offended by the mere mentioning of it.
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#27Seems similar to https://semantle.com/ but backed by a different "similarity" calculation. The "bar" visualization is also nicer to track how close/far you are.
I might as well take this opportunity to plug my clone of Semantle which uses a tSNE visualization. I've heard many people say this helps them visualize the chains of logic in their guesses. https://semantle.pimanrul.es/
Yours has the best interface I've seen so far, but the words still feel kind of obscure when I'm clicking the hint button. Ideally those should be limited to maybe the top 10,000 english words.
I think there's a really approachable game somewhere in this space, but it needs to implement something along the lines of an auto hinting system.
I imagine that for every guess, you could get a word or two that is similar (to help you understand what part of the word's context is important), and maybe words that are further away to help understand what isn't important?
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#28What does the error "this word doesn't count" mean? Should the word be countable? Is it known (because "I don't know this word" also exists as an error) but not on the top N list?
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#29What does the error "this word doesn't count" mean? Should the word be countable? Is it known (because "I don't know this word" also exists as an error) but not on the top N list?
I also got "this word doesn't count because it's too common" as well as the separate "this word doesn't count" - seem to have a few different exclusion reasons, some of which don't have an accompanying error detail.
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#30Few months back, I also tried to create a short puzzle game called Diffudle. The game was basically AI Art + Wordle. You were given an AI generated image and you have to guess the prompt for it.
Initially, I got some traction on the site and even some strangers started promoting it.
But I soon realized that there is very little marketing spend reward. The customers spend no money and ad revenue per user is abysmal. This means you can't use conventional channels and have to rely on people actually finding it fun and recommending it to others.
Although it was getting recurring traffic with zero promotion, it still couldn't reach a self sustaining level and I had to shut it down.
You can see Youtube video of it here: https://youtu.be/uLoMd0TkGKk
The point is: Getting the right puzzle formula is extremely hard and every puzzle will not grow like "Wordle".