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Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

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Re: Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

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When I was in Peru coca tea was available everywhere for literally pennies. It is legal in most of South America. It doesn't even get you high it just sort of helps with elevation sickness.

This seems to upset US politicians from time to time and cause diplomatic spats, they were adamant against the sale of it despite it being traditional in that part of the world. Punitive about it.

Now it is legal in Canada and not a peep. Tres Bizarre.

Re: Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

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Any luck they'll create something like a Managed Alcohol Program: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managed_alcohol_program Unclear what benefit there is to stopping people addicted to opiates getting those opiates cleanly and cheaply.

> Unclear what benefit there is to stopping people addicted to opiates getting those opiates cleanly and cheaply. “Addicted to opiates” is a big spectrum. Someone dependent on a mild recreational dose can possibly continue like that for a long time if, and only if, they don’t try to escalate their dose. The issue is that the recreational value wears off quickly as tolerance sets in, which means they’re only taking th…

I've been in countries where you can pick up opiate-laced cough syrup without a prescription. It was nice when you got a ridiculous cough and didn't want to (wait for) get an appointment just to get a cough syrup you knew you obviously needed.

I don't see the point in gate-keeping drugs. Let darwinism run its course.

Re: Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

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In the US MDMA started off as a legal drug until the mid 80s when the DEA made it illegal

Man, I remember the time when we had to pass a constitutional amendment to make a substance illegal. Now a government agency can just declare substances illegal without needing to justify it to anybody.

One thing I love about this site is how people from all walks of life contribute.

Congratulations on reaching your hundredth birthday.

Re: Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

#24

Good grief, the media is really running with this lol. "scientific and medical purposes only"

oxycotin, which is opium, should only be used for medical purposes. Yet somehow pharmaceuticals got doctors to prescribe until we have an opioid crisis in the US.

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Re: Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

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Man, I remember the time when we had to pass a constitutional amendment to make a substance illegal. Now a government agency can just declare substances illegal without needing to justify it to anybody.

One thing I love about this site is how people from all walks of life contribute. Congratulations on reaching your hundredth birthday.

Because they were born before 1970, which was when the Controlled Substances Act allowed the executive branch to make certain drugs illegal :)

Re: Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

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The DEA has to justify its existence somehow...

The DEA is not just chasing street drug dealers. They also went after US companies that helped manufacturing the opioid crisis with oxycontin and fentanyl and tried to shut them down. Unfortunately, big pharma talked to their congressmen buddies to limit the action of the DEA. (see Ensuring Patient Access and Effective Drug Enforcement Act)

So you’re saying they’re just chasing street drug dealers

Re: Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The DEA has to justify its existence somehow...

The DEA is not just chasing street drug dealers. They also went after US companies that helped manufacturing the opioid crisis with oxycontin and fentanyl and tried to shut them down. Unfortunately, big pharma talked to their congressmen buddies to limit the action of the DEA. (see Ensuring Patient Access and Effective Drug Enforcement Act)

> Unfortunately, big pharma talked to their congressmen buddies to limit the action of the DEA. (see Ensuring Patient Access and Effective Drug Enforcement Act)

Yet again with enough _protection money_ the feds go after the low hanging fruit.

Re: Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

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When I was in Peru coca tea was available everywhere for literally pennies. It is legal in most of South America. It doesn't even get you high it just sort of helps with elevation sickness. This seems to upset US politicians from time to time and cause diplomatic spats, they were adamant against the sale of it despite it being traditional in that part of the world. Punitive about it. Now it is legal in Canada and not…

There’s a pretty vast gap between coca tea and refined cocaine, isn’t there?

Re: Drug Companies Can Legally Start Selling Cocaine, Heroin, and MDMA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I love about this site is how people from all walks of life contribute. Congratulations on reaching your hundredth birthday.

Because they were born before 1970, which was when the Controlled Substances Act allowed the executive branch to make certain drugs illegal :)

The controlled substances act is not a constitutional amendment.
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