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Tesla's next-gen electric motors will get rid of rare earth elements

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Re: Tesla's next-gen electric motors will get rid of rare earth elements

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Say that to a Tibetan and I'd like to hear their response when not watched by CCP secret police

Do we need to bring up the list of countries/groups/people that the US government and citizens have done terrible things to?

No

Re: Tesla's next-gen electric motors will get rid of rare earth elements

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China is a currency manipulator, human rights abuser, and a non-democratic state. that is a country we have done business with, and looked past, but the US can't be "friends" with terms like that. The relentless anti china propaganda has nothing on the BS that china's state-owned media has said about the US over the last decade. The AVERAGE issue of global times is worse than trump's rhetoric.

US is a war machine, can drum up support to invade any country even if they're lies, and in the last 300 years, it's hard to find a country that has abused more human rights. The birth of the US coincided with a genocide of native Americans, wars for more land, slavery of an entire people. And yet, the US actually has allies. After all the crap the US has done, it still has allies. What? Why? Oh, because it's all abo…

And yet, the US actually has allies. After all the crap the US has done, it still has allies. What? Why?

Oh, because it's all about economics and power.

Interesting thesis. At the same time, China has few allies. Does that mean China has a poor economy and little power?

Re: Tesla's next-gen electric motors will get rid of rare earth elements

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There are lots of ways to make motors without rare earths...

There aren't many ways to make permanent magnet motors without rare earths. The slide specifically claims this is the next generation permanent magnet motor.

So the question is... Did they invent a new magnet Chemistry... Or are they using a known magnet Chemistry and are okay with not-very-strong magnets?

Re: Tesla's next-gen electric motors will get rid of rare earth elements

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post #14

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China is a currency manipulator, human rights abuser, and a non-democratic state. that is a country we have done business with, and looked past, but the US can't be "friends" with terms like that. The relentless anti china propaganda has nothing on the BS that china's state-owned media has said about the US over the last decade. The AVERAGE issue of global times is worse than trump's rhetoric.

US is a war machine, can drum up support to invade any country even if they're lies, and in the last 300 years, it's hard to find a country that has abused more human rights. The birth of the US coincided with a genocide of native Americans, wars for more land, slavery of an entire people. And yet, the US actually has allies. After all the crap the US has done, it still has allies. What? Why? Oh, because it's all abo…

> and in the last 300 years, it's hard to find a country that has abused more human rights.

Surely, between:

- The Armenian Genocide

- The Holocaust

- The Holdomor

- Pogroms

- Apartheid regimes

- Purges of the Bourgeoisie

- One Child Policy

I find it hard to think that the US (With it's many, many fuck-ups) is the only, let alone the -worst- guilty party in the last 100 years.

O wait, if we only counted the last 100 years the 'great leap forward' would suddenly look a lot less great... wouldn't it?

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post #23

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US is a war machine, can drum up support to invade any country even if they're lies, and in the last 300 years, it's hard to find a country that has abused more human rights. The birth of the US coincided with a genocide of native Americans, wars for more land, slavery of an entire people. And yet, the US actually has allies. After all the crap the US has done, it still has allies. What? Why? Oh, because it's all abo…

And yet, the US actually has allies. After all the crap the US has done, it still has allies. What? Why? Oh, because it's all about economics and power. Interesting thesis. At the same time, China has few allies. Does that mean China has a poor economy and little power?

Interesting thesis. At the same time, China has few allies. Does that mean China has a poor economy and little power?

Maybe it's news to you but China has been poor for nearly 150+ years. In the past, China had the highest GDP in the world. But the opium trade, western wars, caused it to become as poor as it did. It's only in the last 10 years or so that China's economy has been big enough to garner more allies.

Even so, maybe propaganda has convinced you that China has no allies? For example, 37 countries signed a letter supporting China's anti-domestic terrorism tactics in Xinjiang.

Re: Tesla's next-gen electric motors will get rid of rare earth elements

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I’m no fan of Trump but even a broken clock is right twice a day. China is not our friend, and they do decidedly unfriendly things.

China was our friend. It's the US that decided to unfriend China. Not the other way around.

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Re: Tesla's next-gen electric motors will get rid of rare earth elements

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> Tesla plans New content for https://elonmusk.today

Ehh, Tesla just sold their 4 millionth vehicle (waited until then for investor day so they could flex), are breaking ground in Mexico shortly on their new factory, and are rapidly approaching $100B/year in revenue at a 25-30% margin (while other EV startups are teetering near death and legacies are slow to catch up). Constructive skepticism is fine, but strong evidence of their innovation capacity is available (espec…

I have been a huge skeptic of Tesla, but when you visit Europe the roads are FULL of Teslas, and in the US the roads are now full of them too. In Europe it's more bizarre because generally those consumers were sticking with European brands. Seeing Fords or Toyotas is very rare there, but Teslas are everywhere. That made me a believer. However, I do think the company is probably overvalued.

I think Elon Musk does a lot of very good things, but I do think he often is stupid, a liar, and at worst a useful idiot. In the end though, SpaceX, Starlink & Tesla have all been net positives for humanity. Jobs and Gates both were/are not great people, but their products and companies have been good for basically everyone, so it's not a new concept.

Re: Tesla's next-gen electric motors will get rid of rare earth elements

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post #25

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US is a war machine, can drum up support to invade any country even if they're lies, and in the last 300 years, it's hard to find a country that has abused more human rights. The birth of the US coincided with a genocide of native Americans, wars for more land, slavery of an entire people. And yet, the US actually has allies. After all the crap the US has done, it still has allies. What? Why? Oh, because it's all abo…

> and in the last 300 years, it's hard to find a country that has abused more human rights. Surely, between: - The Armenian Genocide - The Holocaust - The Holdomor - Pogroms - Apartheid regimes - Purges of the Bourgeoisie - One Child Policy I find it hard to think that the US (With it's many, many fuck-ups) is the only, let alone the -worst- guilty party in the last 100 years. O wait, if we only counted the last 100…

I find it hard to think that the US (With it's many, many fuck-ups) is the only, let alone the -worst- guilty party in the last 100 years.

Slavery and native American genocides are pretty bad - as well as the countless countries US has invaded/bombed.

But anyways, are we trying to estimate which country has done more bad in the last 300 years? China or US? And are you willing to become more pro-China if we conclude that the US has done more bad?

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