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Re: Google just shut down our $1M business

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post #6

Google is useless the day ChatGPT include the links to website.

it already does tell people to go to sites, but it also lies about what's there. https://blog.opencagedata.com/post/dont-believe-chatgpt ChatGPT is a convincing fiction generator. Any facts it produces are purely coincidental. It's just really good at mansplaining and gaslighting people about things it knows nothing about.

Is "mansplain" just being used to mean "explain in a condescending way" in this context?

Re: Google just shut down our $1M business

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post #11

> We will (barely) survive That a single company, in an unrelated market (ads), merely refusing to do business with you, can almost bankrupt you, means it's time for trust-busting. No single company should have such power.

In this particular case, it seems easier said than done? OP did put eggs in different basquet ( social medias ) but Google will be Google right? What would be the alternative.

Trust busting or restricting Googles ability to conduct their business as they see fit.

Not something needed in a functioning market but if a company decides and manages to dominate a certain market, the rules change one way or another.

PS: I'm deliberately avoiding the word "monopoly". It's not required in most jurisdictions.

Re: Google just shut down our $1M business

#23

OP seems like he'll hopefully be fine, but there's probably been many people like this who aren't fine. I'm sure many people lose their jobs when an advertiser is banned for some dumb and false reason. I'm sure some people fall into depression and commit suicide when their life's work is destroyed. Can't the allegedly smartest company on Earth figure out some solution to help people in these extreme cases? Especially…

> Can't the allegedly smartest company on Earth figure out some solution to help people in these extreme cases?

I was in a different but comparable situation with Google. I closed my paid account, they claimed I owe them money, and the only way of replying is to log in with said non-existent account.

It's a trivially foreseeable situation, and trivially detected. I bet it's quite common too. If a reasonably intelligent person sat down for five minutes to think about the cancellation process they would identify this branch.

Either those expensive product and software people are incompetent, or they genuinely, deliberately, don't care about edge cases. I can only conclude that it's the second option.

The popular hypothesis is that they couldn't operate at scale without keeping customers away from humans at all costs. But I'm not sure it's true.

Re: Google just shut down our $1M business

#24
For every story like this on HN, there is some factor more in the world that don't get written about and business quietly die at the whim of google's algorithms. There is no recourse, for you are too small to matter.

Re: Google just shut down our $1M business

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it already does tell people to go to sites, but it also lies about what's there. https://blog.opencagedata.com/post/dont-believe-chatgpt ChatGPT is a convincing fiction generator. Any facts it produces are purely coincidental. It's just really good at mansplaining and gaslighting people about things it knows nothing about.

Is "mansplain" just being used to mean "explain in a condescending way" in this context?

I always took "mansplain" to be an explanation taken to be delivered in a condescending way because of the genders of the speaker and receiver in question. The use of the term in and of itself usually saying more about the person using the word than the subject of the offense.

Re: Google just shut down our $1M business

#28
the latest Google ads UI is confusing AF. I think I actually have 3 or 4 different accounts (manager and managed) just because I couldn't make heads or tails of that UI at some point. Time to clean them up! My condolences for getting bit like that.

Re: Google just shut down our $1M business

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks. It wasn't as concise as I'd hoped for (I wanted about the same number of words as the parent comment) but it's a good summary.

Hmm. It misses the ironic 'thanks to HN advice' point, and more importantly it mixes up suspensions (if I understand correctly): the main ads account was not suspended again *. First the secondary ads account was suspended and only then the main ads account. * This proves ChatGPT has no world model. If it had one, it would have been aware that undoing a Google suspension is impossible, therefore no account can be sus…

This is much better than OP though. It’s always confusing when people jump from one thing to another, while renaming things on the fly or implying details that are obvious only if you already know the picture. What chatgpt is really good at is structured narrative, even if it misses a couple of details here and there.
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