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AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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I wish they'd included the results of the undervolted 7950x in the graphs (aka ECO mode) It's sad that performance benchmarks have made market conditions where the gain of 5% performance is somehow worth 20%-30% extra power consumption (and the noise that follows from that)

I just disable PBO on my 3900X - you are 100% correct that an extra 5% performance is not worth the extra 30% power draw/heat.

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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post #18

The inflation has really hit the consumer market... 700$ for CPU and over thousand for GPU... Memory is not cheap either... Not that it won't sell, but still these price points for something still called consumer start to be high. You could get a whole portable PC for same money.

Flagship CPUs/GPUs have always be considered enthusiast/prosumer level with relatively dubious performance/value propositions.

The first Core i7 extremes (which fill roughly the same product niche) were ~$1000 like over 10 years ago (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-990x-extreme-ed...)

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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post #18

The inflation has really hit the consumer market... 700$ for CPU and over thousand for GPU... Memory is not cheap either... Not that it won't sell, but still these price points for something still called consumer start to be high. You could get a whole portable PC for same money.

I see much more affordable CPUs on that list. You can buy those instead of the best of the best.

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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post #18

The inflation has really hit the consumer market... 700$ for CPU and over thousand for GPU... Memory is not cheap either... Not that it won't sell, but still these price points for something still called consumer start to be high. You could get a whole portable PC for same money.

I mean, this is a flagship CPU, up around Xeon Gold capabilities. Plenty of Ryzen3/5 for a deal out there for a good computer otherwise

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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> To make sure gaming workloads find the right CCD, AMD has implemented a high degree of software-level control, in the form of its 3D Vertical Cache Optimizer Driver, which is included with the latest version of AMD Chipset Software. This driver ensures that workload from games are directed to the CCD with the 3D Vertical Cache using dynamic "preferred cores" flagging for the Windows OS scheduler. Yeah, what about g…

I was also really curious about Linux benchmarks; and seems like Phoronix, a Linux-centric tech review outlet, also released their own reviews with tons of game and productivity benchmarks running on the latest kernel. https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen9-7950x3d-linux

Thanks, just saw it. Looks like it fares well in tested games without special scheduler, which is interesting. It falls behind 7950X in video encoding.

Code compilation tests are tied with 7950X.

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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post #18

The inflation has really hit the consumer market... 700$ for CPU and over thousand for GPU... Memory is not cheap either... Not that it won't sell, but still these price points for something still called consumer start to be high. You could get a whole portable PC for same money.

This is true for the high-end, but at the same time, for about 180€ you can get a last gen 5700G which has nice performance and can play most games. Or you get the normal but more powerful CPU for that price and combine it with an ARC GPU. It's not as cheap as it once was, but it's not that bad.

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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post #18

The inflation has really hit the consumer market... 700$ for CPU and over thousand for GPU... Memory is not cheap either... Not that it won't sell, but still these price points for something still called consumer start to be high. You could get a whole portable PC for same money.

> 700$ for CPU

This is a flagship CPU part. Consumer is a broad segment. Even the peasants like shiny things every now and again.

You could get something that would be imperceptibly-slower for most workloads and fits into the same socket for less than $300.

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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post #18

The inflation has really hit the consumer market... 700$ for CPU and over thousand for GPU... Memory is not cheap either... Not that it won't sell, but still these price points for something still called consumer start to be high. You could get a whole portable PC for same money.

You're wrong here. This is top-of-the line enthusiast CPU. They always have costed around 1k$, see e. g. Intel Core i9 Xtreme lineup (the chips with 'X' designation here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i9_processo...).

You can have absolutely fine 8c16t CPU which will handle anything you can possibly throw at it for 230$ from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-16-Thread-Processor/d...).

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