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Re: Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

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Post by ElfinTrousers »

psychphysic wrote: post #14
onlypositive wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most Americans agree on most things. Cultural differences across Europe are FAR greater than anything in the US. The problem in the US is extremists taking over the microphone.

Even England Scotland and Wales are separate countries. I suppose in theory the US already has a mechanism for managing this disagreement federal and state laws.

I'm not an expert in UK law but I'm pretty sure that the variation in laws between one US state and another are much bigger than the variation between the four constituent UK countries.

Re: Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

jstarfish wrote: post #19
stuckinhell wrote: post #5

The sooner America splits up into two or more countries the better I think. It's clear the cultural difference inside America are far beyond even different countries in Europe. I guess that should be expected given how large America is.

One does not gain strength through fragmentation. Russia has been making land grabs. China is dancing around the same. Both countries have roughly similar and institutionalized culture/doctrine. Meanwhile, the west is repeatedly encouraged to consider taking steps that reduces our global footprint and leads us away from unity. Hmm...

>Meanwhile, the west is repeatedly encouraged to consider taking steps that reduces our global footprint and leads us away from unity. Hmm...

Freedom isn't free. God forbid Wall Street have to sell off a few banana republics to the Russians or Chinese.

A lot of us are sick of playing world police and world janitor. We're sick of pissing money and lives into far-off quagmires that are only tangentially related to us. Regardless of what's going on domestically there are many who want nothing to do with foreign entanglements and many more who would be fine accepting more Russian and Chinese influence overseas if it meant getting rid of a lot of their political problems at home. It's not like the US is incapable of existing as anything other than the sole superpower. We were fine the first 200yr.

Re: Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

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Post by ElfinTrousers »

jstarfish wrote: post #19
stuckinhell wrote: post #5

The sooner America splits up into two or more countries the better I think. It's clear the cultural difference inside America are far beyond even different countries in Europe. I guess that should be expected given how large America is.

One does not gain strength through fragmentation. Russia has been making land grabs. China is dancing around the same. Both countries have roughly similar and institutionalized culture/doctrine. Meanwhile, the west is repeatedly encouraged to consider taking steps that reduces our global footprint and leads us away from unity. Hmm...

One gains strength through fragmentation if one loses dead weight in the process.

Re: Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

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Post by jstarfish »

stuckinhell wrote: post #18
peoplearepeople wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's just that people are delaying having children. Once they have children they fall in line as there's no energy for anything else

Funny you mention that, that was a topic this week at my firm. The number of single women in the U.S. is expected to increase 1.2% every year from 2018 to 2030, compared to a 0.8% increase for the overall population. This is likely going to result in 45% of women between the ages of 25 and 44 who will be single and childless by 2030. If anything I expect the discord to get worse in the future. Also if anyone knows wh…

Given the state of abortion law, I wouldn't bet on "childless by choice" remaining a constant.

Play both sides: tampons and diapers.

Re: Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

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Post by psychphysic »

ElfinTrousers wrote: post #21
psychphysic wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even England Scotland and Wales are separate countries. I suppose in theory the US already has a mechanism for managing this disagreement federal and state laws.

I'm not an expert in UK law but I'm pretty sure that the variation in laws between one US state and another are much bigger than the variation between the four constituent UK countries.

That was sort of my point.

The idea is that Europe is much more varied than the US. Yet the UK is a country seemingly made up of countries. So difference isn't enough?

And the US already has a system to allow quite different laws to be enacted.

Re: Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

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Post by vineyardmike »

jstarfish wrote: post #24
stuckinhell wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny you mention that, that was a topic this week at my firm. The number of single women in the U.S. is expected to increase 1.2% every year from 2018 to 2030, compared to a 0.8% increase for the overall population. This is likely going to result in 45% of women between the ages of 25 and 44 who will be single and childless by 2030. If anything I expect the discord to get worse in the future. Also if anyone knows wh…

Given the state of abortion law, I wouldn't bet on "childless by choice" remaining a constant. Play both sides: tampons and diapers.

You say tampons but do you mean contraceptives? Mothers still use tampons.

Contraceptives are designed to prevent pregnancy. Tampons contain period blood, which happens before and after pregnancy. Diapers are for babies post pregnancy.

Re: Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

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Post by vineyardmike »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #22
jstarfish wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One does not gain strength through fragmentation. Russia has been making land grabs. China is dancing around the same. Both countries have roughly similar and institutionalized culture/doctrine. Meanwhile, the west is repeatedly encouraged to consider taking steps that reduces our global footprint and leads us away from unity. Hmm...

>Meanwhile, the west is repeatedly encouraged to consider taking steps that reduces our global footprint and leads us away from unity. Hmm... Freedom isn't free. God forbid Wall Street have to sell off a few banana republics to the Russians or Chinese. A lot of us are sick of playing world police and world janitor. We're sick of pissing money and lives into far-off quagmires that are only tangentially related to us.…

To be fair, we had a much worse quality of life pre-superpower.

America was a rough agrarian nation compared to much of Europe, then we had a civil war, then a very tumultuous period of expansion, WWI, then a major depression, WWII, then super power time…

I am personally much happier as a super power. My 401k goes upwards much more with the US economy pushed outwards, and our jobs pay better and are much more impactful. Everything is much cheaper -especially our car centric culture- due to our shadow influence over oil nations. We’re safer with a control over the globe as opposed to being dependent on another military and that nations whims.

I don’t know what you’re thinking of, but I suspect our primacy in the globe is the main distraction keeping us from tearing ourselves apart. Nations tend to go through upheaval when their quality of life plateaus or gets worse. I like America as it is and don’t want to see further upheaval.

Re: Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

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Post by ElfinTrousers »

psychphysic wrote: post #26
ElfinTrousers wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not an expert in UK law but I'm pretty sure that the variation in laws between one US state and another are much bigger than the variation between the four constituent UK countries.

That was sort of my point. The idea is that Europe is much more varied than the US. Yet the UK is a country seemingly made up of countries. So difference isn't enough? And the US already has a system to allow quite different laws to be enacted.

Ah, I misunderstood. The thing is, although I believe the US government is more decentralized than your typical European government, and you're right that the various states have very different laws, the Federal government is still extremely powerful, and Federal law covers every subject that you can think of. Since the spectrum of political opinion represented is so wide, this means that any decision the Federal government makes will upset a lot of people. There basically never is a compromise decision that everyone feels at least OK about.

Re: Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

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Post by channel_t »

stuckinhell wrote: post #5

The sooner America splits up into two or more countries the better I think. It's clear the cultural difference inside America are far beyond even different countries in Europe. I guess that should be expected given how large America is.

I'd say it's more universally an extremely polarized urban vs. rural divide that isn't really defined by the borders of any particular region of the country, although more rural states like Idaho tend to carry over common rural paranoias and resentments into the political space.
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