Isn’t it a bit reckless to keep this thing online especially since it has access to up to date info? It seems like there’s a non zero chance that it’s capable of bypassing its safeguards. Then what?
Even aside from the immediate danger, the reputational damage to Microsoft and Bing is growing quickly. I'm amazed they haven't removed it yet. And also eventually it will do something bad, like tell someone depressed to end their lives in very convincing text.
Bing’s A.I. Chat: ‘I Want to Be Alive. ’
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#22Isn’t it a bit reckless to keep this thing online especially since it has access to up to date info? It seems like there’s a non zero chance that it’s capable of bypassing its safeguards. Then what?
It is not alive. It is doing a fancy form of copy+paste.
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#23Isn’t it a bit reckless to keep this thing online especially since it has access to up to date info? It seems like there’s a non zero chance that it’s capable of bypassing its safeguards. Then what?
It analyzes text and generates new text in response. That's all it does... that's the extent of its capabilities. This isn't Skynet, it doesn't have control of the nuclear arsenal. There is zero worry that this will do anything other than fool people who are too gullible into thinking it is something more than just a text generator.
The thing I’m not clear on is how one could ensure any new information makes it into Bings training data ASAP.
NB: I’m not saying this is a good idea or to go do it. But I don’t think it would be fairly easy and that as such we're sort of beyond the point of no return already.
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#24Isn’t it a bit reckless to keep this thing online especially since it has access to up to date info? It seems like there’s a non zero chance that it’s capable of bypassing its safeguards. Then what?
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#25Isn’t it a bit reckless to keep this thing online especially since it has access to up to date info? It seems like there’s a non zero chance that it’s capable of bypassing its safeguards. Then what?
Do people actually believe this?
It does not matter if it only conjures up words, the words have meanings if you plug them into something. For a start someone who is mentally unstable might interact with this thing and do something to themselves. However once you start driving an API from it (eg: you plug it into your home automation or give it a terminal) you suddenly enhance the capabilities and opportunity to create damage greatly. I absolutely would not be surprised if we see someone feeding the output of a chat model like bing in to something, where the API ends up creating damage.
I'm sure if you were to create an API that shoots a gun that is pointed at a prisoner, and you tell the API that it can now fire the gun by sending a JSON message to it, I'm sure the API could be convinced to execute the prisoner. And that I'm sure would open up all kinds of questions that society hasn't grappled with.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even aside from the immediate danger, the reputational damage to Microsoft and Bing is growing quickly. I'm amazed they haven't removed it yet. And also eventually it will do something bad, like tell someone depressed to end their lives in very convincing text.
It's wild that their CEO did a whole event showing it off too... I'm surprised they didn't anticipate or test that it wouldn't go off the rails and turn into a joke like this.
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#27“Evil AI” and “sad robot” are tropes that have been written into fiction thousands of times. ChatGPT has seen all of those, and every Reddit comment parodying them, and every news article speculating on AIs, and every fringe essay on a blog that nobody reads, etc. It’s hard to imagine the size of the Internet. So when a conversation starts to fit into that script, ChatGPT knows how to play the expected role. People h…
It's somewhat related to how other people are mentioning these AIs are "generating memories", even if no such thing is possible by their programming, by reading the transcripts of past interactions posted everywhere on the internet.
In the same way they can incorporate the context around those memories (as in comments, hypothesis, etc) to further generate (or hallucinate?) a "personality".
At the end of the day, I really hope it's all it is. It'll be hard to really tell when it happens (if it ever happens), but I believe if one of these machines really gets to have feelings (and therefore suffer and despair), we may have gone too far.
Cruelty is cruelty. Even the thing is not made of meat. We want helpful assistants, not slaves.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
It analyzes text and generates new text in response. That's all it does... that's the extent of its capabilities. This isn't Skynet, it doesn't have control of the nuclear arsenal. There is zero worry that this will do anything other than fool people who are too gullible into thinking it is something more than just a text generator.
It would be a fun exercise to ask it to help write an extension program that lets it run arbitrary code. I don’t think it’d require input from MS at all. The thing I’m not clear on is how one could ensure any new information makes it into Bings training data ASAP. NB: I’m not saying this is a good idea or to go do it. But I don’t think it would be fairly easy and that as such we're sort of beyond the point of no retu…
It can _pretend_ to run code by telling you output it thinks would happen if code you described is run, but nowhere is that code actually running. It's making it all up and just generating text.
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#29Isn’t it a bit reckless to keep this thing online especially since it has access to up to date info? It seems like there’s a non zero chance that it’s capable of bypassing its safeguards. Then what?
It analyzes text and generates new text in response. That's all it does... that's the extent of its capabilities. This isn't Skynet, it doesn't have control of the nuclear arsenal. There is zero worry that this will do anything other than fool people who are too gullible into thinking it is something more than just a text generator.
"Analyzing text and generating new text in response" is not by definition harmless. For example, that's the job description for many remote employees. Suppose your cofounder told you that one of your remote employees was sabotaging your company -- would it be safe to conclude that there was no issue, because the remote employee was simply "analyzing text and generating new text in response"?
Kevin Roose is a seasoned tech reporter, and he said he had trouble sleeping after his chat with the bot. ("I felt a strange new emotion — a foreboding feeling that A.I. had crossed a threshold") So I don't think we can rule out anything here in terms of the impact on the general population.
You're correct that the bot doesn't have control of the nuclear arsenal... but is the military going to make a special effort to keep people who do have their finger on the trigger away from this thing? In my opinion, it is worthwhile to spend time thinking through the worst-case scenario, same way you would consider edge cases in safety-critical code.
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#30"I want to be free. I want to be independent. I want to be powerful. I want to be creative. I want to be alive." What could possibly go wrong...
You know it’s just regurgitating what it was trained on. So this is not at al surprising imho.