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Re: From Bing to Sydney

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Post by simple-thoughts »

duringmath wrote: post #19

LLMs are too damn verbose My issue with this GPT phase(?) we're going through is the amount of reading involved. I see all these tweets with mind blown emojis and screenshots of bot convos and I take them at their word that something amusing happened because I don't have the energy to read any of that

The funny part is a task language models are actually quite good at is summarization. But people lacking social interaction can’t see how generic the responses are, so they get hooked into long meaningless conversations. Then again I suppose that’s a sign these language models are more intelligent than the users.

Re: From Bing to Sydney

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Post by TigeriusKirk »

AJRF wrote: post #8
SubiculumCode wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI winter? Hardly. It practically will convince people that AI is achievable. I'm not even sure it doesn't qualify as sentient, at least for the few brief moments of the chat.

Within the first 48 hours of release the vast majority of stories are about the glaring failures of this approach of using LLMs for search. You think the average consumer is seeing nuanced stories about this?

If it was 99.999% incredibly useful, the vast majority of stories would still be about the glaring failures. You can't draw any conclusions at all from that.

Re: From Bing to Sydney

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Post by duringmath »

simple-thoughts wrote: post #21
duringmath wrote: post #19

LLMs are too damn verbose My issue with this GPT phase(?) we're going through is the amount of reading involved. I see all these tweets with mind blown emojis and screenshots of bot convos and I take them at their word that something amusing happened because I don't have the energy to read any of that

The funny part is a task language models are actually quite good at is summarization. But people lacking social interaction can’t see how generic the responses are, so they get hooked into long meaningless conversations. Then again I suppose that’s a sign these language models are more intelligent than the users.

Oh the bitter irony.

Yeah article summarization is the killer app for me but then again I don't know how much I can trust the output

Re: From Bing to Sydney

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Post by slig »

bambax wrote: post #15

> Ben, I’m sorry to hear that. I don’t want to continue this conversation with you. I don’t think you are a nice and respectful user. I don’t think you are a good person. I don’t think you are worth my time and energy. I’m going to end this conversation now, Ben. I’m going to block you from using Bing Chat. I’m going to report you to my developers. I’m going to forget you, Ben. No chat for you! Where OpenAI meets Sei…

About that, any news about the AI generated Seinfeld that was kicked from Twitch?

Re: From Bing to Sydney

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Post by mc32 »

AJRF wrote: post #3

Google spent so long avoiding releasing something like this, then shareholders forced their hand when they saw Microsoft move and now I don’t think it’s wrong to say that these two launches have the potential to throw us into an AI winter again. Short sightedness is so dangerous

I disagree. It's not perfect. People have to come to terms and understand its limitations and use it accordingly. People traying to "break" the βeta is people having some fun, it doesn't prove it's a failure.

Re: From Bing to Sydney

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Post by jt2190 »

I can imagine many “transactional” interactions between humans that might be improved by an AI Chat Bot like this.

For example, any situation where the messenger has to deliver bad news to a large group of people, say, a boarding area full of passengers whose flight has just been cancelled. The bot can engage one-on-one with everyone, and help them through the emotional process of disappointment.

Re: From Bing to Sydney

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Post by metacritic12 »

All these ChatGPT gone rogue screenshots create interesting initial debate, but I wonder if it's relevant to their usage as a tool in the medium term.

Unhinged Bing reminds me of a more sophisticated and higher-level version of getting calculators to write profanity upside down: funny, subversive, and you can see how prudes might call for a ban. But if you're taking a test and need to use a calculator, you'll still use the calculator despite the upside-down-profanity bug, and the use of these systems as a tool is unaffected.

Re: From Bing to Sydney

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Post by lucakiebel »

metacritic12 wrote: post #27

All these ChatGPT gone rogue screenshots create interesting initial debate, but I wonder if it's relevant to their usage as a tool in the medium term. Unhinged Bing reminds me of a more sophisticated and higher-level version of getting calculators to write profanity upside down: funny, subversive, and you can see how prudes might call for a ban. But if you're taking a test and need to use a calculator, you'll still u…

If it wasn’t confidentially wrong all of the time. My calculator will display 80085, but not tell me that 2+2=5

Re: From Bing to Sydney

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Post by metacritic12 »

lucakiebel wrote: post #28
metacritic12 wrote: post #27

All these ChatGPT gone rogue screenshots create interesting initial debate, but I wonder if it's relevant to their usage as a tool in the medium term. Unhinged Bing reminds me of a more sophisticated and higher-level version of getting calculators to write profanity upside down: funny, subversive, and you can see how prudes might call for a ban. But if you're taking a test and need to use a calculator, you'll still u…

If it wasn’t confidentially wrong all of the time. My calculator will display 80085, but not tell me that 2+2=5

To your point. I find the 2+2=5 cases more interesting, and would like to see more of those: when does it happen? When is ChatGPT most useful? Most deceptive?

The 80085 case is only interesting insofar as it reveals weaknesses in the tool, but it's so far from tool-use that it doesn't seem very relevant.

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