Salesforce yields to activist pressure with harsh new policies for engineers

Post by pg_1234 » Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 9:54 AM UTC

johngladtj wrote: post #16

olliej wrote: post #13

"Activist investors" are just hedge funds trying to extract as much short term rent from the work of others as possible. That their short term desire for a brief bump in profit regardless of long term cost has an impact on the executive management of the company is more an indictment of the ineffectiveness of that company than anything else. The use of consultants to launder their incompetence is a BS activity - I've…

Activist investors are key players in making companies better and more efficient.

Post by adave » Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 10:58 AM UTC

robomartin wrote: post #4

cratermoon wrote: post #3

Capitalism only works in theory. While it might sound good in principle, the realities of human nature make it impractical as a way to organize an economic system.

I find it remarkable to note that not a single person, since, well, recorded history on the subject, has ever matched criticism of capitalism with a viable, well-tested and proven alternative. Perfect it is not. And yet, no other system in human history has elevated more people out of poverty than capitalism.

Post by t0mas88 » Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 1:32 PM UTC

seanhunter wrote: post #18

Trying to change productivity at Salesforce is rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. The truth of the situation is their core product (Basically a layer which allows you to map your business problems onto a relational database + workflow thing) is losing some relevance because the world of tech has moved on, relational databases are not the hotness they were back in the 80s and 90s, people have realised you can…

Post by seanhunter » Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 2:26 PM UTC

t0mas88 wrote: post #25

seanhunter wrote: post #18

Trying to change productivity at Salesforce is rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. The truth of the situation is their core product (Basically a layer which allows you to map your business problems onto a relational database + workflow thing) is losing some relevance because the world of tech has moved on, relational databases are not the hotness they were back in the 80s and 90s, people have realised you can…

> Trying to change productivity at Salesforce is rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. I agree. But this Titanic has many more years to very slowly sink, because large enterprises take forever to migrate away from Salesforce. And the Salesforce sales teams are even better than Oracle at selling a crap product at high prices. That will buy them a lot of time.

Post by cratermoon » Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 3:43 PM UTC

mr_00ff00 wrote: post #8

cratermoon wrote: post #3

Capitalism only works in theory. While it might sound good in principle, the realities of human nature make it impractical as a way to organize an economic system.

This is odd phrasing because usually capitalism is sold as the pragmatist solution, imperfect by design but stable and “good enough” Usually “only works in theory” is applied to the other economic systems which tend to sell high on the idea of equality, but devolve into the same problems of haves and have-nots.