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GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

#21

Teams isn’t great compared to Slack for async text chats, however the video conferencing is actually quite good and I didn’t have any real issues moving from Zoom to it.

> Teams isn’t great compared to Slack for async text chats

It’s slowly starting to become usable, though. After several years, you can now actually use the search function.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

#23
post #2

That’s plenty of time to dust off the resume and start pounding the pavement! Very generous of Microsoft to give so much notice! Edit: for those who may think I’m overreacting to a small change in tooling, I offer this classic essay [1]. It explains the reasoning behind leaving much better than I could! [1] https://steveblank.com/2009/12/21/the-elves-leave-middle-ear...

Changing jobs over video conferencing software would be extreme.

I did exactly this - AMA.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

#24

uh.. i dont see the problem? They are only using it for video conferencing. day to day collab still on slack...

Its like forced conversion. It only benefits MSFT. Teams get to claim github as a customer, and MSFT saves some money. This might be small, but usually this opens the door to a whole suite of software being shoved down github's work/tech stack.

I'm all for dogfooding, the only meaningful difference between slack and Teams to me, is the search for actual information that I know I've encountered in the past (it's easier on slack IMO), and the awesome way to interact/thread with conversations in a natural way.

Video-conferencing wise, I always have more problems with slack than with zoom/teams.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

#25

uh.. i dont see the problem? They are only using it for video conferencing. day to day collab still on slack...

> They are only using it for video conferencing. day to day collab still on slack... If they're already using Slack, Slack has video conferencing and they are trying to reduce costs, why not centralize everything in Slack or Teams?

I suspect they’re not replacing Slack’s video capabilities with this move. They are replacing Zoom’s.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

#26
post #4

"for the sole purpose of video conferencing". They're still using slack for day-to-day...

Step 1 towards, "we will be using Teams for day-to-day collaboration".

Embrace Teams for video conferencing, Extend Teams to day-to-day collaboration, Extinguish Slack. That's not how Embrace-Extend-Extinquish worked traditionally but it still fits.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

#27
post #20
post #4

"for the sole purpose of video conferencing". They're still using slack for day-to-day...

I guess it could have been worse. It could have been Skype for Business.

Nobody tell him what the underlying technology of Teams calling is.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

#28

uh.. i dont see the problem? They are only using it for video conferencing. day to day collab still on slack...

Its like forced conversion. It only benefits MSFT. Teams get to claim github as a customer, and MSFT saves some money. This might be small, but usually this opens the door to a whole suite of software being shoved down github's work/tech stack.

this already happened to some extent. the “blessed” way to develop github is in vscode (from ms), using codespaces (from ms), running on azure (from ms). vim/emacs users can use the terminal (although the codespace and port forwarding, at first, had to be done via vscode exclusively) but your entire toolstack needs to be installed each time you launch a new one.

collaborating with anyone at ms already meant you were using teams to some extent.

(former github developer)

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

#29

uh.. i dont see the problem? They are only using it for video conferencing. day to day collab still on slack...

Slack has video conferencing. Every redundant tool a company makes workers use makes work less pleasant.

I'd expect at some point they'll push them the rest of the way onto Teams, to reduce that redundancy. Which will be even worse, because Teams is so incredibly bad.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

#30
post #7

No surprise here, but I wish almost anyone else purchased github instead of Microsoft. One can hope the founders will eventually pull a "MySQL" --> "mariadb" :) I wonder when github developers will be forced to moved from Linux to Windows ?

The GitHub founders are long gone from the company. Most were gone before the MS acquisition even happened.
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