Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are locking up journalists so it's not that surprising.
Who is locking up journalists?
They’re probably referring to this:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/09/reporter-arrested-o...
Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment
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#23It's worth mentioning the backdrop of this is the current drive toward PSR (precision scheduled railroading), which has meant overworking train engineers with improved "efficiencies" through extremely long trains, and overworked employees. This has greatly increased the value of the train companies on the stock market, but at the expense of the workers (this came to a head a few months ago with pending labor strikes on the railroads). Insiders have warned about its potential risks, and I'm not an expert so I can't speak to overall accident trends, but the increased number of cars on a given engine greatly increases risk of derailment. This clearly seems like a major environmental disaster and will hopefully bring greater scrutiny toward how the rail companies operate.
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#24It’s like people are living through "White Noise" by Don DeLillo. Thanks ChatGPT for helping me remember the book based on the general scenario:
"White Noise" is a darkly comic novel that explores themes of death, consumerism, and technology. The story takes place in a small Midwestern town where a poisonous cloud, known as "The Nanny," is hanging over the area and threatening the lives of its residents. The protagonist, Jack Gladney, is a professor of Hitler Studies who becomes obsessed with the cloud and its effects on the people around him. "White Noise" is widely regarded as one of DeLillo's best works and is considered a seminal work of postmodern fiction.”
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are locking up journalists so it's not that surprising.
Who is locking up journalists?
I assume they are referring to this single instance, as it's the only one I could find.
https://apnews.com/article/law-enforcement-pennsylvania-mike...
But within the article:
> At the end of his news conference, [Gov. Mike] DeWine said he didn’t authorize the arrest and reporters have “every right” to report during briefings.
> “If someone was stopped from doing that, or told they could not do that, that was wrong,” DeWine said.
Seems OP's statement is a bit generally misleading statement for a single incident, without also knowing the full details that prompted the arrest in the first place.
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#26>“Smoke and chemicals from the train, that’s the only thing that can cause it, because it doesn’t just happen out of nowhere,” Holzer says. “The chemicals that we’re being told are safe in the air, that’s definitely not safe for the animals … or people.” >“All the readings we’ve been recording in the community have been at normal concentrations, normal background, what you would find in almost any community operating…
Not necessarily; the reports really could be unrelated to the train accident, or the EPA was simply unable to detect the cause.
Given that you can go on YouTube and see videos of the head of the EPA telling the 9/11 first responders that the air was perfectly safe to breathe, I’m probably going to go with the cat owners on this one.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given the fact it’s going to affect things downstream & across state lines… probably at least the level that “Chinese spy balloons” are getting. Might hinge on how bad the first impending acid rain ends up being. I think Jackson Mississippi still doesn’t have clean water, & you haven’t seen that in any headlines for quite some time. Most things that actually matter don’t get very good news coverage, lest people becom…
How does JD Vance have anything to do with this
Here’s my attempt at a steel man: JD Vance is one of the bad guys on the bad guys team. Whenever bad things happen it’s the bad guys’ fault.
I’m aware that sounds like a pretty poor alloy, but it’s internally consistent, matches the observables, and I can’t really honestly do better.
Edit: The point of this is to explain what this derailment has to do with JD Vance. Any reply that fails to explain why JD Vance is somehow personally involved is failing to do better than the offered steel man. Just generally supporting policies you disagree with merely makes him a bad guy. You do think he’s bad for supporting these policies you believe are bad right? Next you have to show that a freshman senator in the minority who’s been in office for a month is somehow responsible even indirectly. I’d like to see a better effort to steel man that than mine.
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#28It is _super_ weird how little attention this derailment seems to be attracting.
Aren't there several of these situations ongoing at any given time? It has happened twice near some aunts of mine. Train derailments leaking chemicals do not seem that rare.
Train derailments involving vinyl chloride, a highly toxic, carcinogenic chemical are rare though...
Vinyl chloride also known as vinyl monomer is used to make PVC.
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#29>“Smoke and chemicals from the train, that’s the only thing that can cause it, because it doesn’t just happen out of nowhere,” Holzer says. “The chemicals that we’re being told are safe in the air, that’s definitely not safe for the animals … or people.” >“All the readings we’ve been recording in the community have been at normal concentrations, normal background, what you would find in almost any community operating…
Not necessarily; the reports really could be unrelated to the train accident, or the EPA was simply unable to detect the cause.
Or 4 years of hollowing out regulatory agencies is having a lingering effect
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given the fact it’s going to affect things downstream & across state lines… probably at least the level that “Chinese spy balloons” are getting. Might hinge on how bad the first impending acid rain ends up being. I think Jackson Mississippi still doesn’t have clean water, & you haven’t seen that in any headlines for quite some time. Most things that actually matter don’t get very good news coverage, lest people becom…
How does JD Vance have anything to do with this
He’s a grifter pushing policies that lead to disasters like this. And a significant portion of Ohio roots for them.
Surely you can understand the correlation between policies that take away safety measures for (marginal) profit increase & catastrophic disasters happening because of a lack of safety measures.
https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rule...
Nothing is going to change (in this case railway/environmental disasters) until lawmakers that care about implementing proper safety measures are elected. Or any sort of accountability at all.