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From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Post by Majestic121 »

favaq wrote: post #19
O__________O wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thing with OkCupid is people refuse to actually practice the science of relationships. For example, they repeatedly were able to show blind dates produce better results, but the user base refused to participate in blind dates. At the point you’re cherry picking and reading dating science as entertainment or to back one off patterns that meet your desired outcome, that’s opposite of what the authors intended.

>the user base refused to participate in blind dates And I can see why. Higher chances of a good result, but also higher chances of getting a fat woman or something like that.

It's a date, not a lifetime commitment. And who knows, maybe the fat woman is worth knowing?

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Post by mellosouls »

popcalc wrote: post #5

Disclaimer: published by the American Enterprise Institute, a centre-right think tank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute

Disclaimer: described as such by Wikipedia, a left-leaning online encyclopedia...

(To be fair, it probably is, but so what?)

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Post by O__________O »

I have done dating startups few times, even went on 1+ dates a day for six months and on each actively tried to understand how people date; in my experience, people are highly random, rarely reach anywhere near a significant sample, and tend to focus of characteristics of an individual instead of characteristics related to relationships.

If I was to do another social platform that supports dating, it would be one that’s friendly first, dating second. Reason being that in my experience people don’t understand that they wrongly focus on attributes of individual when looking for a relationship instead of looking at the individual’s relationship attributes.

Individuals attributes are things like: attractiveness, age, hobbies, finances, religion, race, profession, etc.

Relationship attributes are things like: communication, engagement, supportiveness, helpfulness, honesty, trustworthiness, kindness, empathy, compassion, availability, reliability, consistency, mindfulness, openness, receptiveness, contribution, etc.

The relationship attributes apply platonic and non-platonic relationships — but are much better predictors of non-platonic relationship success long term than the individual attributes.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Post by O__________O »

spaniard89277 wrote: post #2

In my experience the only apps that I found helping people feel less lonely, finding partner and friends, have been couchsurfing (now paid) and Meetup. In my 2nd tier spanish city Id say it's a great success. In other cities I've heard every meetup group feels like a business, but here it's language exchange, going to eat something, museums, etc. Apparently it's a bit pricey for group hosts. In my particular case I w…

Neither Couch Surfer, nor Meetup are designed for dating — and in my experience anyone using them for dating has a negative impact on there intended use. In the case of Meetup, there are dating groups, but in my experience those are a waste of time.

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Post by bitwize »

mshake2 wrote: post #18
popcalc wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A poisoned-well "argument" has the following form: 1. Unfavorable information (be it true or false) about person A is presented by another. (e.g. "Before you listen to my opponent, may I remind you that he has been in jail") 2. Therefore, the claims made by person A will be false. I didn't make any assumptions on the veracity of their data or claims. Think tanks are politically motivated groups whose work entirely re…

Do you post on liberal sources "Disclaimer: this comes from a liberal source" too? If you're not doing it uniformly, regardless of bias, then yes, you are poisoning the well.

There is far, far more reason to be worried about sources on the right than there is sources on the left. Right-aligned sources are much more likely to deny science, to skew information in a way that benefits corporate benefactors, and to contain bias against marginalized groups such as LGBTQ and even women.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Post by favaq »

Majestic121 wrote: post #21
favaq wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the user base refused to participate in blind dates And I can see why. Higher chances of a good result, but also higher chances of getting a fat woman or something like that.

It's a date, not a lifetime commitment. And who knows, maybe the fat woman is worth knowing?

If it's only a date, you want someone attractive to have sex with. I don't see the difference.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Post by giantg2 »

"One 19-year-old women says that she’s looking for mutual respect in a relationship and someone who approaches issues with an open mind."

And probably a dozen other things. Self reporting is very hard for this type of thing. Theynshould probably have surveyed ex-partners and prior dates to get both sides of the story. In my experience, most of the time when a woman says she wants you to have an open mind, it means she wants you to agree with her because her mind is already made up. Respectful disagreement is unfathomable because it could invalidate or compete with her position.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Post by foobarbecue »

favaq wrote: post #26
Majestic121 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a date, not a lifetime commitment. And who knows, maybe the fat woman is worth knowing?

If it's only a date, you want someone attractive to have sex with. I don't see the difference.

I feel like you're confusing "date" with "hookup."

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Post by favaq »

foobarbecue wrote: post #28
favaq wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's only a date, you want someone attractive to have sex with. I don't see the difference.

I feel like you're confusing "date" with "hookup."

Maybe I'm not explaining myself well.

If you are having a date looking to have a long-time relationship, you want someone attractive. And if you are having a date looking to hook up, you want someone attractive. So it makes no difference at all.

Unless you are looking for a friend. But then "date" is not the word that I would use.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Post by dustingetz »

mshake2 wrote: post #9
popcalc wrote: post #5

Disclaimer: published by the American Enterprise Institute, a centre-right think tank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute

>a center-right think tank Well-poisoning[0]. If there are flaws with the surveys, criticize that. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well

he provided a fact, which is an observation of reality. you provided a judgment, which is a projection of the judge.
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