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Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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The F-22 has gone from zero kills to two in under a week.

Indeed. If you charted those it'd be likely show as a breakout event vs. relevant moving averages at this point.

So from that POV, one may start to think about a quick buildup of momentum in the general direction of F-22s shooting things down, or air combat, or just combat, etc.

Not so much to predict the future, as to ideate and prepare frames of mind for potential changes in circumstance.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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post #17

Probably not a great sign of things to come.

Probably didn't help that an Air Force general was openly and loudly proclaiming that war is inevitable. I looked up some speeches of his, and he is off the rails, like the German general in All Quiet Along the Western Front .

Would be great if just more people had read this great book nowadays (and please, not watch that super bad recent movie that doesn't deserve to bear the same title (: ).

And cannot belief statesman proclaiming that now everywhere :( War should always be seen as evitable, at least that belief needs to hold up til the last second.. and even further. But who am I...

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#23

Probably not a great sign of things to come.

I'd say it feels like a return to the era of cold war tensions but I wouldn't know, I was born around when the Berlin Wall fell. What say you older HNers, is this what it was like?

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#24

Why are they calling it an object. It seems like a huge deal what kind of "object" this was. Was it another balloon? Missile? Private plane? How could they not know, and if they do know, why would they not say? Edit - this video isn't loading for me, but I've just watched what I assume is the same briefing on Twitter. They have a pilot assessment that the object was unmanned - but they can't tell us balloon, missile,…

"Object was flying at an altitude of 40,000 feet and posed a reasonable threat to the safety of civilian flight" and "Object the size of a small car" [1] according to General Ryder

No details beyond this yet due to classification restrictions.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=544hoprTeTw

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#25

Probably not a great sign of things to come.

I'd say it feels like a return to the era of cold war tensions but I wouldn't know, I was born around when the Berlin Wall fell. What say you older HNers, is this what it was like?

The Cold War had expectations, guardrails, rules. Those don't exist in the current setup. China didn't even pick up the emergency hotline in the first balloon crisis.

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#26

Spying happens all the time, even between allies. From what I read/understood about past spying incidents, it's only when someone starts mentioning it to the press that they want the rest of the population to be up an arms about it. Why that might be true: there are probably tons of Chinese spy events (and American spy events on China) that never made it. Was the balloon the first? Come on. If the above hypothesis is…

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Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#27
post #17

Probably not a great sign of things to come.

Probably didn't help that an Air Force general was openly and loudly proclaiming that war is inevitable. I looked up some speeches of his, and he is off the rails, like the German general in All Quiet Along the Western Front .

I mean, it's nothing compared to the internal speeches that China gives its troops. Heck it's nothing compared to the speeches Xi gives internally to troops. Chinese troops are currently training on their missile corp on models of US aircraft carriers.

Edit: Chinese propaganda video of attack on Guam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOho1AOKYY

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/36598/chinese-air-forc...

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-builds-mockups-us-...

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

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post #17

Probably not a great sign of things to come.

Probably didn't help that an Air Force general was openly and loudly proclaiming that war is inevitable. I looked up some speeches of his, and he is off the rails, like the German general in All Quiet Along the Western Front .

Do you have a link or name of the guy? I haven't heard about this

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#30

The F-22 has gone from zero kills to two in under a week.

Indeed. If you charted those it'd be likely show as a breakout event vs. relevant moving averages at this point. So from that POV, one may start to think about a quick buildup of momentum in the general direction of F-22s shooting things down, or air combat, or just combat, etc. Not so much to predict the future, as to ideate and prepare frames of mind for potential changes in circumstance.

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