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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Isn't Geekbench always been very biased towards Apple silicon?

People who don't like the results always like to claim that... but it's awfully hard to find proof. Though, part of it I think may just be Geekbench's design as a microbenchmark that doesn't do long-term strain or attempt real-world tasks.

> but it's awfully hard to find proof.

> Geekbench began as a benchmark for Mac OS X and Windows and was created by John Poole who ran the now-defunct Geek Patrol website, which reviewed hardware and software designed for Macs, and featured editorials and interviews of interest to the Mac community. [0]

Basically, imagine an Nvidia enthusiast writing a system-agnostic GPU benchmark. I'm not as militant about rejecting Geekbench as some others, but you can't pretend the correlation is hard to make.

Regardless though, it's not hard to see Apple being 1-2 years ahead of Samsung's output. If the iPhone is being manufactured on recent TSMC silicon, it will annihilate anything Samsung's fabs are capable of producing.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geekbench

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

#22

Isn't Geekbench always been very biased towards Apple silicon?

Well, both are based on ARM designs anyway. I think some future Snapdragon will even get manufactured by TSMC.

Thought chunks of them already were?

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

#23

I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

All I care about is:

* does javascript execute fast

* which video codecs are hardware accelerated

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

#24

If I could have Android/Linux/whatever I choose on Apple hardware, I absolutely would purchase

I bought an iPhone 14 pro. Switched back to my s21 within two weeks.

On apple, the animations are slicker, the hardware much better, and arguably the software stack higher quality. The Bluetooth audio quality was noticeably better on every device I used, from old car to brand new stereo.

But the always on display isnt as good, focus modes didn't work quite like I wanted, widgets are less powerful, the notifications UI is inferior, and accessing system settings is more cumbersome.

Bonus: the lightning port is inferior.

So yes. I would love the android software architecture with apple hardware and privacy.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

#25
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I like my slower android in which I can run my browser engine of choice, install any program I want in an easy way without time limitations and customize it in general as I want. Did I mention that it has a USB-C connector too? Disclaimer: I have an old iphone, used iphone 11 for weeks then went back to Android and I daily drive a M1 Pro Macbook

> in which I can run my browser engine of choice

Soon on iOS too, to be fair. USB-C to follow most likely.

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iphone 12 mini has been my favorite phone I've ever owned, and coincidentally the first iphone I've ever owned.

It starts with one gadget. Then you buy the second Apple device, and find that they work fantastically together. Soon, you're in an all-Apple household!

I legit wish they had any competitors doing the thing they do even almost as well. It's worrisome that there's nowhere to turn if Apple goes to shit (I'm very worried about their growing advertising income) that's not a significant downgrade in overall UX.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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iphone 12 mini has been my favorite phone I've ever owned, and coincidentally the first iphone I've ever owned.

It starts with one gadget. Then you buy the second Apple device, and find that they work fantastically together. Soon, you're in an all-Apple household!

They do work together, but I've yet to see anyone in my echo chambers succumb to this.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

#28

I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

All I care about is: * does javascript execute fast * which video codecs are hardware accelerated

> * does javascript execute fast

No, Android phones browser performance is still a joke compared to I phones, which are faster than desktop PCs!(in speedometer)

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

#29

I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13.

Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

#30
At this point I really don't care about what is the latest and greatest in phones

They are all the same at this point, we are way past when Specs actually mattered(outside of JS performance on mobile, thank you Snapdragon!), they are just too small for anything useful, at least for me personally.

I just buy a pixel and install GrapheneOS/CalyxOS on it, and call it a day.

Its a phone that works, and I can relatively trust it, certainly more than other spyware, even if sandboxed google services are installed.

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