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‘Confirming we are cleared to land?’ Who said what at Austin
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can't hear what they said in the cockpit without keying the mic, but I have some pretty good ideas.
> without keying the mic I’m not following
'keying the mic' is turning on the microphone
It's very likely they said some less polite words like 'WTF ARE THEY DOING' before turning on the mic and acting all professional
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the goal is to improve safety firing people is almost always the wrong response. That juvenile preoccupation with punishment only serves to create a culture where mistakes are hidden rather than understood.
It's also an extremely niche field, with a very high attrition rate in terms of training, and few people are truly capable of working in that industry. There will be retraining for certain, and a reduction in pay/rank. They certainly do not need to lose their job over a mishap, while an egregious one, it is still a trainable moment.
This also seems counterintuitive to a blameless culture. If anything the ATC industry is in need of one.
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#26Please consider reading Sidney Dekker's books, The Field Guide to Understanding Human Error[1] and Drift Into Failure[2]
[1] - https://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-Understanding-Human-Error...
[2] - https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=3123581163...
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can't hear what they said in the cockpit without keying the mic, but I have some pretty good ideas.
> without keying the mic I’m not following
The conversation that we hear off the tape is only when the mic is keyed. There was probably a lot of discussion going on in the cockpit when the microphone was not live.
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#29I'm curious in this situation if there was a TCAS warning.
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#30was wondering what it looked like from a side angle and found a 3d animation of the incident from CBS news