I saw a bunch of mails just now in my junk folder from Microsoft support engineers, from threads I was CC'd on. That was it though.
Thats really bad honestly, imagine if you missed something important from Azure because its in a spam filter.
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#23Microsoft's disjointed approach to email doesn't surprise me here. They're actively enabling more phishing and fraud by not respecting the DMARC standard or participating in sending aggregate reports.
For all that people like to bag on Google recently, Google has worked harder than anybody on this.
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#24In a roundabout way, this is to Microsoft's credit, sort of...
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I can't wrap my head around the fact that VS Code and Teams came out of the same company. That the same people who thought "it's a good idea to use CS theory to add a type system to Javascript" are the same people who thought "it's a good idea to put ads in the start menu".
> That the same people who thought "it's a good idea to use CS theory to add a type system to Javascript" are the same people who thought "it's a good idea to put ads in the start menu". The secret is that they aren't the same people.
They aren't even aimed at the same customers.
I use Windows 11 Enterprise and I've never seen ads in the start menu, because corporate customers wouldn't put up with that.
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#26So the spam filter works better than expected, in a proven environment!
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#27So MS keeps sending me email thinking I am part of some program, I can't unsubscribe because I need to sign in to do that, which I can't do because I am not part of the program (anymore?).
So for me they are spam and I will mark them as such. I'm on fastmail tho so not sure whether they get the feedback.
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#28After failed Sears and Roebucks, I think Microsoft is the #2 company of all time for "the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing." It's notorious that they have a hard time replicating products that competitors make look simple: look how the Steam store really works for for games, or how Dropbox works so much better than Onedrive.
The gun meme always seemed kind of fitting.
https://i.insider.com/4e0b3416cadcbb0d37010000?width=400&for...
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#29After failed Sears and Roebucks, I think Microsoft is the #2 company of all time for "the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing." It's notorious that they have a hard time replicating products that competitors make look simple: look how the Steam store really works for for games, or how Dropbox works so much better than Onedrive.
Yes, I can't wrap my head around the fact that VS Code and Teams came out of the same company. That the same people who thought "it's a good idea to use CS theory to add a type system to Javascript" are the same people who thought "it's a good idea to put ads in the start menu".
Might have to do with how the company is organised: https://www.businessinsider.com/big-tech-org-charts-2011-6
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#30The fact that Microsoft doesn't just whitelist their own domains speaks to their commitment to strict security measures and good engineering culture. Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
>speaks to their commitment to strict security measures and good engineering culture
Does it really or does it just mean that nobody cared enough to do it for whatever reason?