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MDMA and psilocybin are approved as medicines in Australia

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You’re in for a big surprise when you find out how many people you know take medication for their mental health.

Sure. Me! Please don't mistake this as advocating it as just. I'm just describing.

I believe SSRIs are among the most prescribed medicine in the US. They’re certainly a blunt instrument. I’m all for MDMA or psilocybin research. From my own experience they are certainly very potent and can cause longer term changes in your mental well-being

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Remember this is Australia - a very conservative country. Marijuana possession remains a criminal offence here in most places, with minimal sign this will change any time soon. When they say "for medical usage", they mean it. This is not just a nice acceptable easing in of liberal recreational drugs policy. Don't expect to be buying party drugs from the chemist before going out on saturday night. Despite the fact tha…

I would peg Australia more as an authoritarian liberal country rather than conservative. Most states in the US are far more conservative than Australia. Australia IMHO has never broken out of the colonial mindset, where the government knows what is best for you. Beyond drugs, that includes pervasive censorship of movies, books, video games, Internet etc. The lack of First and Fourth amendment style protections means…

The vast majority of politicians do not spend any longer in the ACT than they have to.

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I have had the happiest moments of my life on MDMA. Everyone should have experienced it at least once. Let me put it another way: No matter how happy you have ever been, on MDMA you can be happier. Somewhere between 3 and 100 times as happy. You gain perspective. Now, with experience, I would only ever use it with purpose. Dating someone seriously? Have a night on MDMA and you will experience love beyond comprehensio…

Does it make you yearn for that the rest of your life though? Nothing can ever be as impressive as the empathetic openness on a heavy roll with the right people around you

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I have had the happiest moments of my life on MDMA. Everyone should have experienced it at least once. Let me put it another way: No matter how happy you have ever been, on MDMA you can be happier. Somewhere between 3 and 100 times as happy. You gain perspective. Now, with experience, I would only ever use it with purpose. Dating someone seriously? Have a night on MDMA and you will experience love beyond comprehensio…

Regarding your last sentence, if you want to go one step up from that, 2C-B is like MDMA x200 for a "night of fun with someone you love". It's beyond anything I've ever experienced before by a long shot, highly recommend.

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This is fantastic!

I am generally very pro-psychadelic - they seem like they can offer unique aid to people and they are not very prone to abuse. The only "downside" is that, because outcomes vary widely (though are generally not negative, simply unhelpful), it's hard to call them "medicine" in the way that, say, asprin is medicine. However, with the proper understanding, I'm hopeful they can be a really helpful tool for some people.

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I have had the happiest moments of my life on MDMA. Everyone should have experienced it at least once. Let me put it another way: No matter how happy you have ever been, on MDMA you can be happier. Somewhere between 3 and 100 times as happy. You gain perspective. Now, with experience, I would only ever use it with purpose. Dating someone seriously? Have a night on MDMA and you will experience love beyond comprehensio…

… that is only there because you are putting chemicals in your body. ‘Love beyond comprehension’ thanks to a drug doesn’t sound very fun to me, it sounds like something out of Brave New World.

While you may have a point, there might be a better way to say it. Everything is chemicals.

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Remember this is Australia - a very conservative country. Marijuana possession remains a criminal offence here in most places, with minimal sign this will change any time soon. When they say "for medical usage", they mean it. This is not just a nice acceptable easing in of liberal recreational drugs policy. Don't expect to be buying party drugs from the chemist before going out on saturday night. Despite the fact tha…

I would peg Australia more as an authoritarian liberal country rather than conservative. Most states in the US are far more conservative than Australia. Australia IMHO has never broken out of the colonial mindset, where the government knows what is best for you. Beyond drugs, that includes pervasive censorship of movies, books, video games, Internet etc. The lack of First and Fourth amendment style protections means…

> The hypocrisy of it is quite transparent. Last I checked, possession of cannabis and X rated pornography is illegal in all states and territories of Australia, except for the Australian Capital Territory which is the equivalent of DC. Which of course is where most of the politicians are.

Not to mention the pervasiveness of cocaine throughout the community, from tradies to barristers, doctors etc. The hypocritical nanny state mentality that keeps these politicians acting this way is driven by our community and it is sickening.

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I have had the happiest moments of my life on MDMA. Everyone should have experienced it at least once. Let me put it another way: No matter how happy you have ever been, on MDMA you can be happier. Somewhere between 3 and 100 times as happy. You gain perspective. Now, with experience, I would only ever use it with purpose. Dating someone seriously? Have a night on MDMA and you will experience love beyond comprehensio…

Does it make you yearn for that the rest of your life though? Nothing can ever be as impressive as the empathetic openness on a heavy roll with the right people around you

Yes, yes it does. The desire is always there, garnished with the knowledge that every single hit melts your brain and permanently erodes your serotonin receptors a little bit.

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I have had the happiest moments of my life on MDMA. Everyone should have experienced it at least once. Let me put it another way: No matter how happy you have ever been, on MDMA you can be happier. Somewhere between 3 and 100 times as happy. You gain perspective. Now, with experience, I would only ever use it with purpose. Dating someone seriously? Have a night on MDMA and you will experience love beyond comprehensio…

MDMA isn't called the "love drug" for nothing. Raves are very friendly places and the chillout/smoking zones are full of interesting people.

outdoor smoking zones are a good place to cool down every once in a while too, whether you smoke or not.

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I have had the happiest moments of my life on MDMA. Everyone should have experienced it at least once. Let me put it another way: No matter how happy you have ever been, on MDMA you can be happier. Somewhere between 3 and 100 times as happy. You gain perspective. Now, with experience, I would only ever use it with purpose. Dating someone seriously? Have a night on MDMA and you will experience love beyond comprehensio…

Regarding your last sentence, if you want to go one step up from that, 2C-B is like MDMA x200 for a "night of fun with someone you love". It's beyond anything I've ever experienced before by a long shot, highly recommend.

I thought 2-CB right after the peak of MDMA was the way to do it...

Haven't tried yet...

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