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Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by actionfromafar »

aliqot wrote: post #11
Steltek wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, that frightens me. I know of another powerful, tested, and DIY friendly compact computer: the Raspberry Pi. The Pi got integrated into so many full fledged commercial products that it's lost its availability for hackers. If the Framework mainboard becomes a Super-Pi, will Framework owners be able to get the spare parts that they were counting on?

Pi became unavailable because of their business model, not because it got popular and bought out.

Explain more, please. I'm sure this is obvious to many, but I can only guess. Too much dependency on a single vendor? (Broadcom?)

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by phowat »

SiempreViernes wrote: post #3

This looks like a cool desktop computer; not sure why he labels a computer explicitly designed to not be usable in your lap a "laptop".

If I were forced to work in a hot desk arrangement, I'd much prefer this to a laptop. I can't stand working on a laptop for long periods of time.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by shagie »

aliqot wrote: post #11
Steltek wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, that frightens me. I know of another powerful, tested, and DIY friendly compact computer: the Raspberry Pi. The Pi got integrated into so many full fledged commercial products that it's lost its availability for hackers. If the Framework mainboard becomes a Super-Pi, will Framework owners be able to get the spare parts that they were counting on?

Pi became unavailable because of their business model, not because it got popular and bought out.

There were a number of challenges that they had. A recent update from Dec 12, 2022:

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/supply-chain-update-its-goo...

> Although we are sitting on substantial order backlogs from commercial customers, we expect to gradually increase the fraction of our output which we dedicate to single-unit sales next year until we’re back in our pre-pandemic situation. The chip allocations we’ve received for next year mean that by the end of the third quarter, the channel will have recovered to its equilibrium stocking level, with hundreds of thousands of units available at any given time. At that point, we will have spent a little over two years in a low-stock position: a measure of the severity and persistence of the shortages.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by nrp »

Steltek wrote: post #9
xbmcuser wrote: post #2

I like how he uses framework parts to build this. His builds at the end always look better than you expect

Actually, that frightens me. I know of another powerful, tested, and DIY friendly compact computer: the Raspberry Pi. The Pi got integrated into so many full fledged commercial products that it's lost its availability for hackers. If the Framework mainboard becomes a Super-Pi, will Framework owners be able to get the spare parts that they were counting on?

We don’t foresee any issues continuing to make parts and modules available, even with increased demand from module re-use projects and products.

In fact, we explicitly encourage this kind of re-use, because it benefits everyone. It’s a great way to absorb a Mainboard that is being upgraded out of a Framework Laptop for example, increasing its value for re-sale and avoiding it turning into e-waste.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by jasonlotito »

esskay wrote: post #13

Not sure its a laptop at this point. All attempts to a multi-screened laptop seem to fail spectacularly and end up far too heavy for the brackets, causing it to flop down.

This is directly addressed multiple times in the video. At the start and at the end. I find it amazing you watched the video and then decided to post this odd comment.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by jasonlotito »

unwind wrote: post #5
atdrummond wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He does address this exact concern in the video. He explains that laptops make ergonomic trade offs he isn’t amenable to it, so the whole point was to build a NON laptop.

Well. sure, but obviously still keeping the name "laptop" in the video title is, as always on the good old 'Tube, clickbait. It's not, uh, intellectually honest to say "here's how to build a triple-screen laptop!" and then follow that up with "oh, btw, don't use laptops, desktop computers are better for you, see?". All that said, I did enjoy the build and it's really cool to see both Framework parts being used as wel…

I would argue that the name laptop is the idea of a portable computer setup. If the suggestion is that a laptop is something that is designed to work in your lap, I would argue that laptops aren't designed to work in your lap. If the argument is the form factor (folding, keyboard, screen, mouse), then sure, fine. You can call iPads laptops.
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