Judging by the other replies I must be alone here, but I can't stand these ligatures. I don't even like them on blog posts, especially that awful ostentatious s-t ligature (nobody writes like that!). But in that context I can tolerate the whimsy. For a fixed-width programming font, though? Where individual characters frequently completely modify the meaning of a statement? The absolute last thing I want is for any of the characters to be obfuscated. I want to see exactly the symbols that I can type on my keyboard to reproduce the text, not some typographer's notion of good aesthetics.
Berkeley Mono Ligatures Release
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#22Am I alone in disliking ligatures? I want a font that displays the characters I type in exactly the form I type them. I really don't see the appeal.
I just posted exactly the same thing with more words. Totally agree with you.
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#23With a paid font like this, what’s the story for supporting Nerd front icons and power line icons?
Nerd fonts comes with a patcher that can patch .ttf fonts to add all the icons. I've never tried it but I take it it'd work?
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#24Am I alone in disliking ligatures? I want a font that displays the characters I type in exactly the form I type them. I really don't see the appeal.
Then don't use them. They are always optional, and in fact usually require opt-in via editor settings.
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#25Regarding fonts, here's one that makes me sad... The ASCII vertical bar (the "pipe" symbol) used to be a "broken bar", making it very clear it wasn't an uppercase "I" or a lowercase "l" or even a "1" (in some old or stylized font).
I really like a broken vertical bar. There's been a fight, where it became a solid vertical bar, then a broken vertical bar again, then a solid bar again:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_bar
See the "Solid vertical bar vs broken bar" section.
Because mathematical "OR" and all that IIUC. But I don't care. I'm in control. So my monospace font use a broken vertical bar (and a taller one than what's usually seen too, there's no risk of mistaking my "broken bar" '|' with '!'). When I write "my" font, it's literally a font I made myself by using FontForge slightly modifying another font (I basically modified @$%&|l and a few other tiny details). I cannot distribute it though.
EDIT: funnily enough reading that Wikipedia article I posted, I checked my keyboards... Two of them, an old IBM Model M and a "not so old but still old" Sun keyboard do both have a broken bar printed as the vertical bar: I never realized that!
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#26To all the people complaining about how they don't like ligatures:
Nobody cares. If you don't like them, then don't use them. They are optional.
Lots of people like them. Let people like things.
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#27Regarding fonts, here's one that makes me sad... The ASCII vertical bar (the "pipe" symbol) used to be a "broken bar", making it very clear it wasn't an uppercase "I" or a lowercase "l" or even a "1" (in some old or stylized font). I really like a broken vertical bar. There's been a fight, where it became a solid vertical bar, then a broken vertical bar again, then a solid bar again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ver…
Resonate with your frustration, we can do something about this. Duly noted.
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#28Am I alone in disliking ligatures? I want a font that displays the characters I type in exactly the form I type them. I really don't see the appeal.
We talked about ligatures in-depth in BT-001 bulletin: https://berkeleygraphics.com/public-affairs/bulletins/BT-001...
In short, we think 1 keypress = 1 symbol printed on the screen. That explicitness brings peace. But, we also think that ligatures are optional and many people like them (read about all the pros and cons in the link above).
That makes everyone happy.
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#29Regarding fonts, here's one that makes me sad... The ASCII vertical bar (the "pipe" symbol) used to be a "broken bar", making it very clear it wasn't an uppercase "I" or a lowercase "l" or even a "1" (in some old or stylized font). I really like a broken vertical bar. There's been a fight, where it became a solid vertical bar, then a broken vertical bar again, then a solid bar again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ver…
Resonate with your frustration, we can do something about this. Duly noted.
Ah, I just checked your profile: thanks a lot!
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#30I paid for this font. I can't believe it, but I just kept coming back to the webpage every week thinking "Aww dang its nice, but no way would I ever pay $75 for a font for personal use". But I kept coming back. Again and again, just looking through their page. I tried the trial. I eventually caved. A weird moment for me, but I bloody love this font and I frequently notice how nice it is in all my IDEs. I sound like a…
Personally, I've stuck with free fonts most of the time. For programming, currently I tend to use: Liberation Mono: from the very same package of fonts that are included in LibreOffice, I find it to be surprisingly readable and easy on the eyes for most kinds of code or monospaced text https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts PT Mono: while initially I really liked PT Sans and PT Serif separately (they're curre…
Same here, I try out a lot of monospace fonts as they come along. But Liberation Mono just scratches all my itches so well.
I do however enjoy setting comments using fonts that aren't monospaced (which I begrudgingly acknowledge Comic Sans is actually decent for).
At some point though the old typographers adage of "people read best, what they read most" must impact our preferences.