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Big Tech is using layoffs to crush worker power

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Re: Big Tech is using layoffs to crush worker power

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post #9

follow up question, why hasn't apple needed to do this? how are they keeping 'tabs' on 'worker power'?

Union-busting, NDA’s, restricting new slack channels, non-competes - all the usual ways!

This response just turns my question into:

why haven't the usual ways been sufficient for the rest of the tech companies?

why are the usual ways still sufficient for apple but not for the others???

Re: Big Tech is using layoffs to crush worker power

#22
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You mean *consolidate worker power. Critical people don't get layoffs unless they work for a muskcorp.

In the recent layoffs I've seen some very senior high-performing engineers get the axe, because they were very expensive and the org could get two juniors grinding out CRUD for the same value as one super senior architecture astronaut.

Re: Big Tech is using layoffs to crush worker power

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does this imply the lay-offs were a product of collusion at the executive level across the entire sector? If anyone could find evidence of that it would be extremely news-worthy.

If I might adorn my hat of tin-foil for a second; at a big corp I used to work at, I heard execs predicting this outcome back in early 2022 in combination with being incredibly relaxed about the employment market being extremely hot at the time.

Re: Big Tech is using layoffs to crush worker power

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post #18
post #15

Would be interesting to see if there is a strong relationship between the companies doing layoffs and the companies who did WFH en masse and might be thinking a layoff will “encourage” their compliance to come back to the office.

One company did exactlly that: everybody must be in the office in 3 weeks, 25% quit, no layoffs needed.

In countries with strong labor laws, that rapid dramatic unilateral change in working location itself would count as similar to a sudden firing without cause for workers who don't want to accept the change in work location, either for all such workers or for those who can't easily begin or resume a commute to the office on such short notice.

I wish the US had stronger labor laws. :(

Re: Big Tech is using layoffs to crush worker power

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post #18
post #15

Would be interesting to see if there is a strong relationship between the companies doing layoffs and the companies who did WFH en masse and might be thinking a layoff will “encourage” their compliance to come back to the office.

One company did exactlly that: everybody must be in the office in 3 weeks, 25% quit, no layoffs needed.

That’s constructive dismissal

Re: Big Tech is using layoffs to crush worker power

#30
post #20

Guess tech workers should have unionized when they had the chance. As if capital was going to let the most powerful group of workers that's ever existed continue to slip their noose

If this thread had been made a year ago, even six months ago, it would’ve truly been a grasshopper and the ants situation:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34199176

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