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Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Link to court docket: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66577374/olohan-v-googl...

> In or about June 2022, both Schiestel and Stewart strongly encouraged Olohan to hire only female applicants for an open management position on his team.

Not great for Google executives to be doing this.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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post #7

Seems like no one believes him. Let's be honest: How often have you heard news about a woman molesting a man vs. a man molesting a woman?

I was working as a busboy reaching up for a glass when an older server woman grabbed my ass so 'deeply' that her fingers almost reached my testicles, then squeezed like she was wringing out an orange. Even though I was unattracted to her, I was flattered at the time. Nonetheless, I'm pretty sure that's well past the bar for molestation.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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> When he asked why he was non-inclusive, Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees I always expected capitalism to eat itself, but not like this... not like this.

Keeping in mind, of course, that the source the news is pulling from for all this information is the plaintiff.

This is one side of a two-sided story.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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post #7

Seems like no one believes him. Let's be honest: How often have you heard news about a woman molesting a man vs. a man molesting a woman?

women victims have paltry statistics, which is why we know about the depth of them at all

men victims have almost no statistics, because they are not collected

the absense of evidence is not the evidence of absence, this guy tried reporting it and the complaint was tossed in a dusty chamber like a chicago rape kit

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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post #21

Link to court docket: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66577374/olohan-v-googl...

> In or about June 2022, both Schiestel and Stewart strongly encouraged Olohan to hire only female applicants for an open management position on his team. Not great for Google executives to be doing this.

Some folks would say that "The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination." I wouldn't be surprised if this was a popular leaning within Google, given its politics and morals.

Obviously, the federal govt or the state of CA wouldn't support that approach if it were to make its way into a courtroom, but it's accepted as a "necessary evil" in the more elevated and sophisticated circles.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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post #2

This specific comment is so annoying >Olohan said he reported the issue to Google’s human resources department the following week, but nothing ever came of the complaint. The HR rep “openly admitted … that if the complaint was ‘in reverse’ — a female accusing a white male of harassment — the complaint would certainly be escalated,” according to the lawsuit.

that is because HR exists to protect the company, not the employee. it would be a big media storm if that aforementioned reverse thing happened.

This doesn't explain why this one wasn't escalated as it has become a media storm as well.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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post #5

> When he asked why he was non-inclusive, Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees I always expected capitalism to eat itself, but not like this... not like this.

The full quote from Olohan's filing is kind of peculiar, I'm curious what the deal is with "walking pace":

> In response to Olohan’s request during the call for specifics as to why Google believed he was not inclusive, Google’s Employee Investigations team explained that he had shown favoritism towards high performers, which it considered “non-inclusive,” and commented on employees’ walking pace and hustle, which it considered “ableist.”

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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post #7

Seems like no one believes him. Let's be honest: How often have you heard news about a woman molesting a man vs. a man molesting a woman?

Perhaps you don't hear of it because of stigmas associated with talking about it. The data is there, though preliminary because of those prevailing attitudes:

https://spssi.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/josi....

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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I expect I would be unemployable if I had touched a female colleague's body like that. I trust Mrs. Miller will be equally unemployable.

Why would you expect Miller to be unemployable? This is the same company that kept Vic Gundotra until Google+ itself proved unworkable.

And then Andy Rubin until he wasn’t useful either
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