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Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by 1123581321 »

bradknowles wrote: post #19
1123581321 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides the press/announcement post, if you opened the App Store link you’d have seen the publisher is Consumer Reports, with one of the other apps being the official CR app.

If they're going to have a web landing page at all, then it needs to tell you more than just giving you a link to the App Store and nothing else. At that point, it's just a pure waste of time. They shouldn't have bothered to build a web page at all, if that's what they were going to do with it.

It said quite a bit besides the links on the page.

Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by thrwawy74 »

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2015/01/user-agreement/i...

> By transmitting any Communication to the Site, you grant CR an irrevocable, non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, unrestricted, royalty-free license (with the right to sublicense) to use, reproduce, distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, modify, edit, create derivative works from, incorporate into one or more compilations and reproduce and distribute such compilations, and otherwise exploit such Communications, together with any personal information transmitted with your Communications (such as name, user name and photograph), in all formats and in all media now known or later developed.

> You acknowledge and agree that any Communications made to or by means of any Site Tool are public and you have no expectation of privacy in any such Communication. No confidential, fiduciary, contractually implied or other relationship is created between you and CR by reason of your transmitting a Communication to any Site Tool.

There has to be a narrower way to draw up this agreement.

Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by gnad_sucks »

Here's something I never see discussed. Assessing one's credit worthiness is naturally a data business. So, unlike for ads where companies knowing more about you has no upside, when it comes to credit the situation isn't as black and white. There's an actual trade-off. I DO want companies knowing how much I make because that's beneficial for me.

Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by dang »

tony101 wrote: post #7
bradknowles wrote: post #6

The landing page tells me nothing useful about this app. So, I'm not inclined to trust it at all, because anyone can claim they are "Powered by Consumer Reports", and without any evidence to back that up, it's just an empty claim. Can someone please explain to me why I'm wrong?

Refer to https://digital-lab.consumerreports.org/2022/11/16/introduci...

Ok, we've changed to that from https://www.permissionslipcr.com/ above.

Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by bradknowles »

1123581321 wrote: post #21
bradknowles wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they're going to have a web landing page at all, then it needs to tell you more than just giving you a link to the App Store and nothing else. At that point, it's just a pure waste of time. They shouldn't have bothered to build a web page at all, if that's what they were going to do with it.

It said quite a bit besides the links on the page.

I saw very little text. I saw some graphics where someone clearly spent some time to make some small sprites move around a bit to catch your eye, and links to open the App Store, and that's it.

If they're showing real text explanation of what the app is and what it does and why you might want to trust CR to allow them to do that for you, then they certainly didn't show any part of that on the web page I saw.

The web page I saw was basically useless. They would have been better off just making it a redirect to the actual App Store page.

Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by 1123581321 »

bradknowles wrote: post #25
1123581321 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It said quite a bit besides the links on the page.

I saw very little text. I saw some graphics where someone clearly spent some time to make some small sprites move around a bit to catch your eye, and links to open the App Store, and that's it. If they're showing real text explanation of what the app is and what it does and why you might want to trust CR to allow them to do that for you, then they certainly didn't show any part of that on the web page I saw. The web…

I doubt you’d have been happy with anything they could have said. I tried downloading the app just now, and it didn’t do anything that surprised me based on what the landing page had described (with words in addition to images.) This isn’t a service I need, but the basic functionality and relationship to Consumer Reports was successfully communicated.

Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by bradknowles »

1123581321 wrote: post #26
bradknowles wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw very little text. I saw some graphics where someone clearly spent some time to make some small sprites move around a bit to catch your eye, and links to open the App Store, and that's it. If they're showing real text explanation of what the app is and what it does and why you might want to trust CR to allow them to do that for you, then they certainly didn't show any part of that on the web page I saw. The web…

I doubt you’d have been happy with anything they could have said. I tried downloading the app just now, and it didn’t do anything that surprised me based on what the landing page had described (with words in addition to images.) This isn’t a service I need, but the basic functionality and relationship to Consumer Reports was successfully communicated.

Including the text of the press release from CR, or even just a link to that press release would have been enough to at least get me to try the app.

But their landing page as I saw it was basically useless.

So, you're not the author are you? If so, then why would you hide your identity here?

Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by 1123581321 »

bradknowles wrote: post #27
1123581321 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt you’d have been happy with anything they could have said. I tried downloading the app just now, and it didn’t do anything that surprised me based on what the landing page had described (with words in addition to images.) This isn’t a service I need, but the basic functionality and relationship to Consumer Reports was successfully communicated.

Including the text of the press release from CR, or even just a link to that press release would have been enough to at least get me to try the app. But their landing page as I saw it was basically useless. So, you're not the author are you? If so, then why would you hide your identity here?

No, and I’ve no relation to Consumer Reports. I’m not surprised you went for some weird attack there, sadly, after trying to find something wrong with a bog standard app explanation page.

Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by bradknowles »

1123581321 wrote: post #28
bradknowles wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Including the text of the press release from CR, or even just a link to that press release would have been enough to at least get me to try the app. But their landing page as I saw it was basically useless. So, you're not the author are you? If so, then why would you hide your identity here?

No, and I’ve no relation to Consumer Reports. I’m not surprised you went for some weird attack there, sadly, after trying to find something wrong with a bog standard app explanation page.

But there was no explanation actually shown there. So there is no valid claim of a standard app explanation page.

Perhaps you saw a different page than I did, but there was nothing on the page that I saw that explained anything about the app itself or what it was supposed to do.

And there's nothing strange about asking someone if they happen to be the author when they are acting like a shill. When I am presented with a spade, I tend to call it a spade.

Re: Permission Slip: App to take back control of your data

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Post by bradknowles »

bradknowles wrote: post #6

The landing page tells me nothing useful about this app. So, I'm not inclined to trust it at all, because anyone can claim they are "Powered by Consumer Reports", and without any evidence to back that up, it's just an empty claim. Can someone please explain to me why I'm wrong?

To be clear, here's a screenshot of the page I saw, which has virtually no useful and verifiable information on it: https://imgur.com/a/pV4PdSv
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