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Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by drivebyacct2 » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:56 AM UTC

Daniel_Newby wrote: post #16

garyrichardson wrote: post #6

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I think you should change your comment to "Now let's just hope they do the story justice" Ender's Game is a story that a lot of people from different walks of life can connect with. OSC is a homophobic asshole.

> OSC is a homophobic asshole. He has a fear of homosexuals so intense that his mind is diseased? Let's stick to facts, not misdirection.

The level of homophobia that he has shown and some of the things in some of his book, might be construed as a mental disease. The effort that many homophobic people go to to "hate" (or whatever you want to call it) homosexual people tends to seem "diseased" to me.

OSC: "I will act to destroy that government [that recognizes gay marriages] and bring it down"

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by waiwai933 » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:58 AM UTC

darien wrote: post #17

"Set in Earth's utopian future..." If I recall correctly, the earth society and government was actually pretty dystopian. Does that mean that Hollywood is altering the story for the worst??

It (i.e. the book) was more utopian than dystopian, but neither "utopian" nor "dystopian" are really appropriate terms here. The Earth-wide government wasn't much more than an UN (that changed after Peter got put in charge), but there was international peace and harmony since the Buggers were the primary concern, so one could say that that was better. But no significant oppression, etc.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by waterlesscloud » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 1:01 AM UTC

darien wrote: post #17

"Set in Earth's utopian future..." If I recall correctly, the earth society and government was actually pretty dystopian. Does that mean that Hollywood is altering the story for the worst??

It means it's some writer for Variety offering a summary of how they see the story.

Entertainment journalism is not known for its accuracy.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by waterlesscloud » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 1:03 AM UTC

The fun part here is that since it's being made by Summit, it's being funded at least in part by the insane profits from the Twilight series.

Of course, Summit and Lionsgate are in merger talks, and if that happens all bets are off.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by kkihara » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 1:03 AM UTC

As much as I loved Ender's Game when I read it the first and subsequent times, I lost all respect for the man and his works after finding out what a homophobe Orson Scott Card is. He's so full of hate.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by SteveJS » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 1:03 AM UTC

tikhonj wrote: post #19

baddox wrote: post #15

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How does that fact that there is space war defeat all the arguments against 3D films? Namely, the fact that no one has ever had any problem determining depth from a "2D" projection, because parallax is not the primary source of depth perception in humans. There are plenty of movies and television shows in 2D that feature air and space battles, and never once have I found myself thinking "Gee, I really wish I knew whi…

If I remember the book correctly, the 3D parts were actually games where the participants as people move around without gravity in 3D. In this particular case--much more than for an aerial battle with airplanes or space ships--I also think 3D would help with immersion.

I get queasy watching 3d shooters. I don't want to imagine how bad that could be with Ender's Game in 3d on the big screen.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by tsunamifury » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 1:04 AM UTC

baddox wrote: post #15

tsunamifury wrote: post #10

This is, potentially, the only movie I can think of that demands a 3D experience. Considering the storyline dives deeply into the tactics and strategies of conducting war in a 3D space rather than on fixed plane -- I really hope the film makers turn 3D into a useful storytelling attribute. Note: Im a pretty ardent 3D hater.

How does that fact that there is space war defeat all the arguments against 3D films? Namely, the fact that no one has ever had any problem determining depth from a "2D" projection, because parallax is not the primary source of depth perception in humans. There are plenty of movies and television shows in 2D that feature air and space battles, and never once have I found myself thinking "Gee, I really wish I knew whi…

I said a 3D space, as in volume, not outter space. The story spends a great deal of time illustrating how Ender has a mind for assymetical battle, denial of ground, and other things prevelent to battle in zero G. Adding an increased or heightened awareness of dimensional depth to the film would be very valuable.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by sp332 » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 1:06 AM UTC

fennecfoxen wrote: post #14

psweber wrote: post #8

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Ender's Game was my favorite book when I was 12, so I read a whole hell of a lot of Card's books before I knew anything about his personal beliefs. I tried so hard to think they were awesome, but everything after Ender's Game is pretty uninspired.

After a certain number of words, everything Orson Scott Card writes is at risk of devolving into the exact same plot: 1. Character glimpses a new way of life. 2. Character is misunderstood and persecuted by society. 3. Character collects followers and heads off into the middle of the wilderness to found a new society. This is an effective summary of not only the Ender's Game series but his Homecoming saga, Alvin Make…

You know how almost half of his writing is Mormon (LDS) fiction? Well, maybe all of it is :)

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by Harkins » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 1:09 AM UTC

thesash wrote: post #18

nl wrote: post #13

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Speaker for The Dead is good, but the book deteriorate quite quickly after that.

The original quartet is epic, Xenocide and Children of the Mind get a little bit off the cuff, but I really like them. Even the first few in the "Shadow" series were ok, but then quality dropped off. Now there are dozens of books set in the universe.

The fairly magic particles in Xenocide are based on Mormon theology, so if that's not compelling to you, the exposition of same in CotM is going to be pretty boring.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by wahnfrieden » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 1:11 AM UTC

tikhonj wrote: post #19

baddox wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that fact that there is space war defeat all the arguments against 3D films? Namely, the fact that no one has ever had any problem determining depth from a "2D" projection, because parallax is not the primary source of depth perception in humans. There are plenty of movies and television shows in 2D that feature air and space battles, and never once have I found myself thinking "Gee, I really wish I knew whi…

If I remember the book correctly, the 3D parts were actually games where the participants as people move around without gravity in 3D. In this particular case--much more than for an aerial battle with airplanes or space ships--I also think 3D would help with immersion.

Immersion at the cost of aesthetics. Is this a carnival ride?